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Vladimir 20.01.2015 19:31

How to protect graphics on the walls of the house in the Maritime environment?
 
Recently heard from one collector that houses the sea spoils graphics decorated in the standard baguette under glass. Whether salt air, humidity, mold...don't know how, but spoils. Allegedly.

Question two:
1. Is it true that the Maritime climate is detrimental to graphics? If faced with this restorers?
2. Are there any modern technology, hermetically packaging graphics for hanging in the rooms of the house by the sea?

Вивьен 20.01.2015 23:59

In the gardens by the sea definitely spoil plants not adapted to salty winds. In houses by the sea rust dishes on the roofs. We have a cottage right on the sea a few meters from the water, giving more than 50 years, but I personally did not notice that the graph that are in the house for quite a long time, was influenced by the salty winds.

Vladimir 21.01.2015 01:29

I saw once in the apartment in the house by the sea, locked up for a few months, rose colorful mold. Because there was no ventilation. But it is rather a gross fault of the owner. More buyers on the first line had warned earlier that this house will quickly crumble because of the aggressive environment. But with graphics little hard to believe. And yet...

Кирилл Сызранский 21.01.2015 01:46

[QUOTE="Vladimir;3353101"]I saw once in the apartment in the house by the sea, locked up for a few months, rose colorful mold. Because there was no ventilation. But it is rather gross error vladelca@
Climate also depends on in subtropical any climate even in summer, you may receive the mold, and so close to the cold sea-ocean, no mould no.

U_Z 21.01.2015 02:32

[QUOTE="Кирилл Сызранский;3353111"]From climate still depends in subtropical any climate even in summer, you may receive the mold, and so close to the cold sea-ocean no mold no byvaet@

Not exactly, I can smell define "a picture of Britain". Such persistent smell of damp typical graphic works from coastal houses of the English countryside;).

PS: by the Way, in the Baltic States (Estonia, for example) is the same story.

Кирилл Сызранский 21.01.2015 02:50

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Сообщение от U_Z (Сообщение 3353141)
Not quite true, I can smell define "a picture of Britain".

Apparently, You have a great sense of smell, for example, I no smell of damp neither in Holland nor in Belgium from the pictures did not feel. May have to sniff it work on paper?

U_Z 21.01.2015 03:25

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Сообщение от Кирилл Сызранский (Сообщение 3353171)
May have to sniff it work on paper?

True, these odors absorbs paper/cardboard (backdrops, stickers, etc.), while on the canvas/stretcher also occurs quite often, especially when working with walls".

U_Z 21.01.2015 03:29

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Сообщение от Vladimir (Сообщение 3353101)
I saw once in the apartment in the house by the sea, locked up for a few months, rose colorful mold. Because there was no ventilation.

True. Often this is a problem of the premises, and not climate.

Vladimir 21.01.2015 14:42

[QUOTE="Кирилл Сызранский;3353111"]From climate still depends in subtropical any climate even in summer, you may receive the mold, and so close to the cold sea-ocean no mold no byvaet@
Not thought about it. Sea interested in the Mediterranean, and the city of tel Aviv.

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Wladzislaw, and have you ever been faced with the damage charts due to the Maritime climate?

Vladimir 22.01.2015 17:35

From a conversation with a knowledgeable person understood the following. Directly from the sea air schedule does not deteriorate. Spoils from humidity should not exceed 65%) and incorrect temperature (should be ideally 19-22 degrees). Methods of sealing in the frame, except the paper needs to breathe. Plasticization is, but it spoils the schedule. Generally abstractly about everything wrong - you need to study a specific problem with a specific subject.

Вивьен 22.01.2015 18:03

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Сообщение от Vladimir (Сообщение 3354971)
abstractly and Generally to talk about all wrong - you need to study a specific problem with a specific subject.

It is Yes. This correctly.

K-Maler 22.01.2015 19:33

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Сообщение от Vladimir (Сообщение 3352631)
Question two:
1. Is it true that the Maritime climate is detrimental to graphics? If faced with this restorers?
2. Are there any modern technology, hermetically packaging graphics for hanging in the rooms of the house by the sea?

You and all collectors should be familiar with the labor M. C. Farmakovsky "Watercolor, her technique and restoration". The book reprinted: Moscow LLC "Publishing Century Shevchuk" 2000

In it You will find a comprehensive answer to the questions of storage and protection of works on paper.
Humidity is harmful, harmful light, dust and all suspended in the air of harmful gases... and many more reasons spoiling works on paper.

Maybe this book can be found on the Internet. In any case it can probably be found in the library of the CX.

Jasmin 22.01.2015 19:58

[QUOTE="Vladimir;3353801"]Sea are interested in the Mediterranean, and the city - Telaviv@

In tel Aviv a very humid climate. But I never heard there spoiled watercolor or graphics. Watercolor spoiled only from direct sunlight for 24 hours a day for several years.:) And if hanging under glass in a dark room, so can be hung 300 years. I was surprised, but it turned out that watercolor is very durable.:cool:

Пряник 22.01.2015 22:52

[QUOTE="Vladimir;3353101"]I saw once in the apartment in the house by the sea, locked up for a few months, rose colorful mold. Because it was not ventilatie@
I'll try to suggest on the basis of their construction experience.
Mold is a fungi.
For infection should be provided certain conditions are met:
-available nutrient medium, most often paper and glue;
-initial hydration of the nutrient medium (paper) water (condensate, direct wet);
-mushroom spores.
For some fungi-biretrosteel white stone limestone is enough only to have moisture only in the initial stage, in the future, the fungus takes the necessary water from the air.
Pave that hydration charts (paper) may occur when the condensation on a cold glass in the morning after warming up the air.
The temperature of the object by which its surface falls condensate is called the "dew point".
The calculation of the temperature "dew point" is made on the basis of temperature and humidity. If the glass temperature is equal to or lower than the temperature of dew point, the condensation cannot be avoided.
Further, the condensate can flow into the gap between the frame and glass, or even to fall on the inner side of the glass, wetting the paper and contributing to the infection...
I apologize for any unnecessary details. I hope that was not written in vain.

Vladimir 22.01.2015 23:43

Well, letís look at it from the other side.
What are modern materials and design rules for graphics, so it does not disappear in the indoor environment? What adhesives, glass, and cardboard are the most perfect? What rules must comply with conscientious artist?
And Yes, the conditions are the same: tel Aviv, humidity is certainly higher than 60%.


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