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наталия7 09.12.2014 12:49

Bogdan Khmelnitsky, to see the portrait
 
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Help to assess the situation Bogdan Khmelnitsky.Painted in oil on canvas .Size width-49cm.height-69cm.

Artoil-A 09.12.2014 14:33

[QUOTE=наталия7;3300391]Help to assess the situation Bogdan Khmelnitsky.Painted in oil on canvas .Size serenades@

Apparently, this is a relatively modern copy of an ancient portrait. It is important to know, covered-whether painting with a protective varnish?

наталия7 09.12.2014 16:04

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Сообщение от Artoil-A (Сообщение 3300451)
apparently, this is a relatively modern copy of an ancient portrait. It is important to know, covered-whether painting with a protective varnish?

I'm a complete zero.How to understand whether it is covered with varnish? The picture is not bright. And I don't know who drew the old portrait, and it cannot be found?

Artoil-A 09.12.2014 19:00

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Сообщение от наталия7 (Сообщение 3300531)
I'm a complete zero.How to understand whether it is covered with varnish? The picture is not bright. And I don't know who drew the old portrait, and it cannot be found?

1. Type in Yandex search: Bogdan Khmelnitsky portrait
and look for your prototype.
2. If the picture is not shiny, then consult a conservator as to restore the optical properties of the dried painting.
3. Portrait of B. H. are:
http://www.pravenc.ru/text/Беларусь.html

Homoludens 20.12.2014 15:43

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Сообщение от наталия7 (Сообщение 3300531)
not know who drew the old portrait, and it cannot be found?

Natalia, generalizing the work of the early iconography of Hetman Bohdan Khmelnytsky (like the works of Kim Slackage and other Ukrainian researchers about the iconography of another Hetman - Mazepa) unknown to me. Specialist in this issue of Museum employee Bohdan Khmelnytsky in Chyhyryn (Cherkasy region of Ukraine) Love Smigol; I met her publications on this topic. I think You can contact her by writing to the address of the Museum: nikz.chigir@gmail.com Extensive database of in vivo and early post-mortem iconography of Ukrainian hetmans of the 17th and 18th centuries, collected by the staff of the Kiev Museum of hetmanship; not too much to ask and there: hetmanmus@ukr.net

олег назаров 20.12.2014 17:14

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Сообщение от Artoil-A (Сообщение 3300451)
apparently, this is a relatively modern copy of an ancient portrait. It is important to know, covered-whether painting with a protective varnish?

you are again talking about?


For the price I can not say and by the time it is mid - late 18th century.

Homoludens 20.12.2014 17:23

[QUOTE=олег назаров;3314131]you talking about?


For the price I can not say and by the time it is mid - late 18th veka@

Oleg, didn't want to offend Artoil-A, but You, in my opinion, closer to the truth than he. However, the portrait is to do seriously.

Artoil-A 20.12.2014 18:14

[QUOTE=Homoludens;3314151]Oleg, didn't want to offend Artoil-A, but You, in my opinion, closer to the truth than he. However, the portrait is to do series@

The canvas is difficult to ground, so that no cracks were formed, also difficult was the technique of oil painting that is not lost when storing the picture color. The poor preservation of color painting and no visible crazing and weave of the canvas me and is suggestive of a later version of the portrait.
http://shedevrs.ru/materiali/179-ocnova.html?start=1

Artoil-A 20.12.2014 18:23

repeat.........

redbor 20.12.2014 19:55

The picture is old. Photo turnover of the canvas?
The inscription Zinovy Bogdany Hmelnitski made in the old orthography

Artoil-A 21.12.2014 00:14

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Сообщение от redbor (Сообщение 3314581)
old Picture. Photo turnover of the canvas?
The inscription Zinovy Bogdany Hmelnitski made in the old orthography

It could be made in the 19th century Contemporaries B. H. just got away from iconography, but their technology multilayer painting could keep color for centuries.
Pasty ease at which loses its color, appeared in the technology later.
And in combination with loss of color can be assumed about low-skilled painter.
And three hundred years of preservation of the surface of the painting when epanutin factors, something strange.

Homoludens 21.12.2014 00:16

[QUOTE=Artoil-A;3315551]She could be made in the 19th century, contemporaries B. H. just got away from iconography, but their technology multilayer painting is allowed to retain color Okami@

But the contemporaries B. H. it was not. I would not dare to date picture (or its prototype) time before the second half of the 18th century.

Artoil-A 21.12.2014 00:38

[QUOTE=Homoludens;3315581]And contemporaries B. H. it was not. I would not dare to date picture (or its prototype) time until the second half of the 18th veka@

It is possible, although it is not clear how the picture has survived to our time. And at the end of the 19th century, is beginning to affect the successful work of graduates of the Academy of Arts at the art market orders.
And academics have a good command of the full range of skills to create high quality pictures. This portrait was done is clearly not vypusnik-academician.

наталия7 17.01.2015 22:33

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Here's a little photo from different angles.


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