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P_Anna 27.11.2014 17:18

E. M. Bebutov
 
Вложений: 3
Author has identified itself was not difficult; I think not mistaken..
Act examination at the picture there, you want to make available for sale, if...will be solved.
I would be grateful for an estimate of the value of the painting Elena Mikhailovna.

oil on canvas, h

anik 28.11.2014 00:26

If it was Bebutov, then this picture is of the order of $ 30,000.
But this is hardly it. In any case, the signature is applied.

P_Anna 28.11.2014 00:46

Вложений: 1
anik, You are not to difficult to explain-what is applied? Attributed much later than the work was done?
Or believe that it is an outright counterfeit with the appropriate signature?

anik 28.11.2014 01:02

Yes, the signature is made much later than the painting itself. This does not always mean that the signature is not done by the author, but in your case, it seems that the signature is not authentic.
However, it's not even in your signature. The thing is weak, not the level that is the Bebutov, every penny.

P_Anna 28.11.2014 01:21

anik, now it works.. Sorry for the quality - copied from a movie about her work. I am no expert, but can see the difference and dynamics are not the same, and the content of the picture blurred.
Three disappointments per day is a lot:(
But the estimated Bebutov..it will show..; despite all the evidence of what did likeness..

P_Anna 29.12.2014 01:12

In milk..)
In the furnace will not send, in a fit of reflection will not tear will be just an interior gizmo history of a single cell society)
If curious, will show you a picture of technological expertise.

" The combination of materials used in the painting indicates that the picture painted in the last quarter of the twentieth century."

uriart 29.12.2014 10:44

P_Anna, just amazing looking at how Furla lectured to your spouse. And he did not wish to refer to other experts?
But in vain!

Кирилл Сызранский 29.12.2014 11:00

Цитата:

Сообщение от uriart (Сообщение 3326451)
And he did not wish to refer to other experts?
But in vain!

Read this:
[QUOTE="P_Anna;3290431"]In the house 12 years living work, bought late husband - who don't know.. On the hands is an act of artistic expertise GNII Restavrazii@ and I suspect that all bought already with expert opinions.

P_Anna 29.12.2014 11:17

uriart, he and I were far from the relevant market, which was then, Oh...how spontaneously. Know it better than me..)
Questions to ask no more than 10 years..
Alas.

P_Anna 29.12.2014 11:25

Cyril Syzran, exactly..)

Oil - four works, two of which are outright wrong.
By E. Lansere, it was also passed, and Krachkovsky - Kryzhitsky confirmed the time of writing.
A watercolor sudeikina left signature.
Pencil schedule during the first visit, similar to the truth - will finish this story after the holidays..

Attachment tiny-h Bogolyubov, for example..
Repin portrait of Mihalcioiu..

Homoludens 29.12.2014 21:02

[QUOTE=P_Anna;3326511]Repin - portrait Mihalcioiu@

Under the portrait at the bottom right I see only the signature (not Repin) ?

P_Anna 29.12.2014 21:24

Homoludens, a little closer image. Have not been here to post a separate topic, wait for the opinions of experts on the graph.
Mihalcea E. P.-student of archaeology..

Homoludens 29.12.2014 21:35

P_Anna, thank you, so much the better. Now clearly see the initials I. R. the shape of letters - Repin.

P_Anna 29.12.2014 21:51

Homoludens, thank You for the opinion!) Confidence in the authenticity added!
If You don't mind, look a little closer, without bias in the theme of "published" again. I will continue to try to find the truth, do not leave me, the idea of authorship Kryzhitsky; if not strong study - could, in the end, the artist should not in the mood... for example.
In x-ray visible work to restoration and renovations, spotting much less.

Solovlad 29.12.2014 23:57

Good time.
So lean that the original portrait.
According to Marina, the signature is questionable, the figure itself to say good difficulty.
With HC.


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