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mileva 16.11.2014 00:22

Winter landscape,1926
 
I beg to decrypt the signature.

Artoil-A 16.11.2014 09:41

[QUOTE=mileva;3279621]Beg to decrypt podpisi@

Like artisanal painting. The signature can be any.

redbor 16.11.2014 12:50

Signature I. Nikiforov - I. Nikiforov.
Ivan Mikhailovich Nikiforov (1897-1971). early work?

mileva 16.11.2014 13:16

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Сообщение от redbor (Сообщение 3279741)
Signature I. Nikiforov - I. Nikiforov.
Ivan Mikhailovich Nikiforov (1897-1971). early work?

Judging by the year 1926

mileva 16.11.2014 13:24

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Сообщение от redbor (Сообщение 3279741)
Signature I. Nikiforov - I. Nikiforov.
Ivan Mikhailovich Nikiforov (1897-1971). early work?

Something does not like him.

mileva 16.11.2014 13:29

Born in the village of monakova near the County town of Village.
Art education is not received. All his studies were limited to two classes a parish school.
In the first world was a soldier, and then later fought in the red Army.
After the war he costarica. He worked on the farm, was even literacy Chairman.
In the 1930-ies settled in Pushkino near Moscow.
In 1942 he worked for the railroad as a loader, he got hurt during the loading of the echelon. Became crippled, disabled.
[B][COLOR="Red"]First began to paint at the request venucci@ retired got a job as a night watchman. Have some free time. Wrote letters in student notebooks three of the novel, then decided to illustrate. Many helped him with advice Pushkin artist Century. And. the media.
So I. Nikiforov became a chronicler of the past time, creating a kind of cartoon encyclopedia of Russian folk life of the recent past.

redbor 16.11.2014 15:52

So, the picture I. Nikiforov seen. But who knows, maybe he is a primitive played for the Soviet government and of the trade Union and himself until 1917 managed the Academy of fine arts to finish. (like metric from Verona village: " we in the schools has not been taught...") :)
Well, the author of another I. Nikiforov, of the white emigrants...

Artoil-A 16.11.2014 19:15

[QUOTE=redbor;3279841]so, the picture I. Nikiforov seen. But who knows, maybe he is a primitive played for the Soviet government and of the trade Union and himself until 1917 managed the Academy of fine arts to finish. (like metric from Verona village: " we in the schools has not been taught...") :)
Well, the author of another I. Nikiforov, bloomigton@

Artists collectives were usually trained. The author of this specific simplified compositions owns the craft skills of the artist. These techniques were used in the 90-ies on the Arbat.

mileva 16.11.2014 20:04

[QUOTE=Artoil-A;3280071]Artists collectives were usually trained. The author of this specific simplified compositions owns the craft skills of the artist. These techniques were used in the 90-ies on Arbate@

Work in the sale.

redbor 16.11.2014 23:07

Artoil-A that you have everything, what picture will not see the "gang"? You listen, you might think artists only team go.
Is the landscape like a local, the artist is unable to do alone, without any farm?

Took cardboard, paint, brushes, and wrote. Or without the farm - no?:)

Artoil-A 17.11.2014 01:33

[QUOTE=redbor;3280241]Artoil-A that you have everything, what picture will not see the "gang"? You listen, you might think artists only team go.
Is the landscape like a local, the artist is unable to do alone, without any farm?

Took cardboard, paint, brushes, and wrote. Or without the farm - nikak@

The problem of profitability. The team provides centralized artist's work.
Neophyte Navarsete "creative" picture, but will not sell. And porter copies paintings selected, simplified designs. Paintings are sold in approximately 1 to 3 days of exposure points exhibitions-sales of the farm. These fairs are protected. The artist is the individual who tries to sell a copy of artisanal composition, at best, put his creation on his head instead of a hat.
Believe me, with such a system individually very difficult to compete. Moreover, watching as one after another sold paintings cost of one average monthly salary is hard for the individual-loser. Need to put a lot of effort, to be sold next to these competitors. For twenty years the art business I artel studied well.
At a higher level, there are also associations even top artists. Some was an apprentice to climb in terms of sales.
It is unclear why you ignore the existing variety of effective forms of art production and art trade?

Кирилл Сызранский 17.11.2014 02:42

[QUOTE="Artoil-A;3280351"]Paintings are sold in approximately 1 to 3 days of exposure points exhibitions-sales arteli@
This is where? In Užupis farm market? :D

Кирилл Сызранский 17.11.2014 02:46

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Сообщение от Artoil-A (Сообщение 3280351)
Problem in profitability. The team provides centralized artist's work.
Neophyte Navarsete "creative" picture, but will not sell. And porter copies paintings selected, simplified designs. Paintings are sold in approximately 1 to 3 days of exposure points exhibitions-sales of the farm. These fairs are protected. The artist is the individual who tries to sell a copy of artisanal composition, at best, put his creation on his head instead of a hat.
Believe me, with such a system individually very difficult to compete. Moreover, watching as one after another sold paintings cost of one average monthly salary is hard for the individual-loser. Need to put a lot of effort, to be sold next to these competitors. For twenty years the art business I artel studied well.
At a higher level, there are also associations even top artists. Some was an apprentice to climb in terms of sales.
It is unclear why you ignore the existing variety of effective forms of art production and art trade?

[QUOTE="Artoil-A;3280351"]These exhibitions and sales ohraniayutsia@
do Not make a noise, I - invalid! (with) :D

Artoil-A 17.11.2014 06:17

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Сообщение от Кирилл Сызранский (Сообщение 3280371)
do Not make a noise, I - invalid! (C) :D

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