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Pavel 23.04.2009 18:35

French artists
 
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French modern artists, in different directions. Actually in France, every third considers himself an artist, but all the outstanding artists, or the French or studying in France or the French or Italians, or from Russia.
Soulages-known to all, Cesar - pressovalschik all molded Cesar prize of gold jewelry. Avant.

nikola 23.04.2009 20:32

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all the outstanding artists or French or studying in France or the French or Italians, or from Russia.

... or Dutch, or Spanish, or Ukrainian. But yesterday!:)

Pavel 24.04.2009 10:44

Вложений: 9
1-2. Artist Arman
3-4. Artist Gerard Karust
5-6. Artist Robert Komba
7-8. Artist Olivier Debre
9. Artist Jacques Monor

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Pavel 24.04.2009 10:47

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Сообщение от nikola (Сообщение 342)
... or Dutch, or Spanish, or Ukrainian. But yesterday !:)

History zapupannaya, the Rome Prize, the School of Paris ...
Still, the French is that cheerfulness and looseness which no one else has ...

Артём 24.04.2009 13:26

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But still, the French is that cheerfulness and looseness which no one else has ...

This is a matter of taste, for me so cheerful Spaniards. Yes, and school notebook.

Art_Lyss 11.05.2009 21:30

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Still, the French is that cheerfulness and looseness which no one else has ...

Truth. Endorse. Yes, charm, charm. I have not found a good realism, but because I love a good abstract art, I enjoy art exhibitions of talented French-abstract.

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Artem, A is a strong Spanish ralisty traditionalist? Should be. In Italy, Pinot alive and working. Serious comrade.
Spanish abstract too good. Yes, he can forcefully and intensely French, but voteta frantsuzistaya lightness and looseness, but even so strong factor.
I agree, even so it is a matter of taste, personality.

Pavel 12.05.2009 21:00

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Сообщение от Art_Lyss (Сообщение 378796)
True. Endorse. Yes, charm, charm. I have not found a good realism, but because I love a good abstract art, I enjoy art exhibitions of talented French-abstract.

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Artem, A is a strong Spanish ralisty traditionalist? Should be. In Italy, Pinot alive and working. Serious comrade.
Spanish abstract too good. Yes, he can forcefully and intensely French, but voteta frantsuzistaya lightness and looseness, but even so strong factor.
I agree, even so it is a matter of taste, personality.

Look at Claude Bernard Gallery there is the Spanish realists. I think you have more than a perverted understanding of realism. The founder of realism - Courbet. Glazunov and Delakruirovannye Americans is academic manner, rather than realism.

Art_Lyss 12.05.2009 23:35

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I think you have more than a perverted understanding of realism.

I smiled! Cool.

Pavel 13.05.2009 00:22

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Сообщение от Art_Lyss (Сообщение 381306)
I smiled! Cool.

There is a realistic method is something else. This Impressionists and Van Gog.Metod everyone has his own, and realism, in the academic sense, this-designed or quality at all one. This is how banks with Serena, in the Crimea, in Astrakhan, the same-so no.

Art_Lyss 13.05.2009 00:32

Pavel, I do not know whether it is realism with a capital letter. I think it is practically impossible. Greatly influenced by Fr. Impressionists and their Russian followers of the art-consciousness.
I will not insist on his vision is at all personally, but what is called (a fact), Russian, or rather Soviet-impressionism thing more sincere and genuine. It is a realistic method of ...

Pavel 13.05.2009 13:21

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Pavel, I do not know whether it is realism with a capital letter. I think it is practically impossible. Greatly influenced by Fr. Impressionists and their Russian followers of the art-consciousness.
I will not insist on his vision is at all personally, but what is called (a fact), Russian, or rather Soviet-impressionism thing more sincere and genuine. It is a realistic method ...

I agree I myself a patriot. But as we know Impressionism was dead even at 10x, respectively. Soviet art of painting developed in a supportive environment, this exhibition and procurement, creative and give poezdki.Eto allowed to create a unique art, which can be called a Soviet style. But we are not famous, and develop. Not enough to know only their own and even more so just Surikov. You are so easy to say, who is there in France realists? But the French say, it is our great school of painting and to iimpressionisty and post and Matisse, and Bonner, etc. There every 3 artist. The same is true Spain, Italy, Germany, The Netherlands. Arts internationally and need to know as much as possible and in any case respect the work of artists had put life to Somewhere flashed his work. In reultate will be a good domestic artists. And not because he had once postecheniyu circumstances or to pull enrolled and graduated from Surikovku, Stroganvku etc. You should work, and compare.
Why realism should simply and well and with soul, so that all said, Wow!
Weather trash, in the studio is dark, rain!

Семен Семенович 13.05.2009 14:39

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everyone has his own method, and realism in the academic sense, this-designed or quality at all one. This is how banks with Serena, in the Crimea, in Astrakhan, the same-so no.

Academism - is the school that gave the foundation in the creation of all the great artists of the world. This Renaissance artists, Renaissance, it is great flomantsy, Spaniards, Italians, a Russian school. Academism existed for over 300 years and initiated and impressionism, and modernism, but in general all major destinations. Just not all were able to break away from the academic and today they are for you not to modern. A-designed? " Well, go, do so.
And the lilac in the Crimea and Astrakhan - different. Just as the sky, air, water. Nature-unique ...
And, in general, having come here thinking there would talk about the great French Impressionists. Probably wrong

Pavel 13.05.2009 16:04

Lilacs in banks as a living doing the same in Astrakhan and the Crimea because chchto commerce is not otherwise buy, and so much will not give, but to give expensive should something to do, and still do not know like it not, then try to stick together for sure, so as alive.
Academism is a set of rules allowing to quickly and easily bungled now to how they should, but not like these Impressionists, with their sick vision and inability to where you have to wipe Marsico, that glittered and sparkled. This Impressionist-hooligans have to learn from respected academics he Bouguereau, Cabanel, Jerome correctly portray the human body as divinely made it gBugro bee sting in the picture marked with a gold medal at the last cabin. There's no comparison with him can not stand an ugly girl with a cat of a Renoir trrupnymi covered with purple spots.

L-ana64110 13.05.2009 16:41

My opinion is always pro-recognizable regardless of style and genre,,,, this particular vision of the future picture in my subconscious,,,, your dreams come true-this is another
IMPORTANT, sincerity and courage,,,

Семен Семенович 13.05.2009 16:56

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Lilacs in banks as a living doing the same in Astrakhan and the Crimea because chchto commerce is not otherwise buy, and so much will not give, but to give expensive should something to do, but do not know yet like no, then try to stick together for sure, so as alive.

I seem to you a bit confused - how to live, to breathe and smell - it is worth a lot (though there is more impressionism). But as in the photo - so it is with photos. This is not what - there is a good picture.
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Academism is a set of rules allowing to quickly and easily bungled now to how they should, but not like these Impressionists, with their sick vision and inability to where you have to wipe Marsico, that glittered and sparkled. This Impressionist-hooligans have to learn from respected academics he Bouguereau, Cabanel, Jerome correctly portray the human body as divinely made it gBugro bee sting in the picture marked with a gold medal at the last cabin. There's no comparison with him can not stand an ugly girl with a cat of a Renoir trrupnymi covered with purple spots.

In your quotations - only the opinion of critics late 19 th century. Renoir - a genius to know that the essence of painting, went through the hard work craftsman (with gratitude), and admired the best works of previous generations, for hours worked in the Louvre. A lack of understanding - is a natural component of the older generations. Above all, the basis of a leading French Impressionist painting was a high level of professionalism and talent. But it was and support - Courbet, Corot, Dobin ...


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