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Евгений 22.04.2009 17:50

Beware of fake
 
Вложений: 2
A letter with the proposal paintings, world one hundred tons.
(He has a particular client). Be careful ..
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Letter sent: Ilya Maksimov.
"Good time of day. I saw your ad on the forum and decided to write. Available in the picture:
By PP Benkov. The picture is called Lola in Malakhovka. Registration
Number 240. 1927. Holst.Maslo. 42h34
Although your ad and the old, but still ... If interested, please contact.
Moscow "
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On the subject fake pictures:
1. http://forum.artinvestment.ru/showthread.php?t=18815
2. http://forum.artinvestment.ru/showthread.php?t=385

uriart 22.04.2009 17:56

All the same handwriting!
Same style of sign!
They or anyone else not mistake!

Евгений 22.04.2009 18:03

uriart You are right in this fraudulent group has already developed into his own handwriting. "Worker" is already 3-4 years, the term will also be between 3 and vyshe.Statya CC on them has long been crying.
An example is http://www.gzt.ru/incident/2007/12/11/155331.html

Кирилл Сызранский 22.04.2009 18:14

Цитата:

Сообщение от Eugene (Сообщение 339706)
Lelia in Malakhovka.

- Lelia? What Lelia? With Yelokhovsky?
- From Tver ...
(c)
Цитата:

Сообщение от Eugene (Сообщение 339746)
Article of the Criminal Code on them has long been crying.

And what is art? I have something of such an article and does not know?

Евгений 22.04.2009 18:19

Cyril Syzransky, is a serious subject.

Кирилл Сызранский 22.04.2009 18:43

Eugene, and I'm seriously asking, what threatens this article poddelschikam?
(As for the quotations from t /f "Meeting Place Can not Be Changed" about Lelia, it is I'm kidding about the title of the picture. What Malakhovka what Kaluga in 1927? "You better I know that Benkov until 1929., before his departure for Central Asia lived bezvylazno in Kazan.)
You really hurt me severely ...

Since the Criminal Code are not joking, that's for sure.
I'm certainly not cherub. I do not have wings, but I respect the law. It's my weakness. (c)

Евгений 11.05.2009 06:51

It is now in l \ to the letter, already forume.Uchastnik nickname "Ilia"
http://forum.artinvestment.ru/member.php?u=22585
  "Benkov
Good time of day. I would like to offer a picture of PP BENKOVA Lelia in Malakhovka. 1927. Canvas, oil.
If you still do paintings and interested send pictures. "
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Promotions bullshit prodolzhaetsya.Forum not read, remember.

Евгений 29.04.2010 04:34

Golitsyn, II fake pictures carefully!!
 
Вложений: 2
It's another letter to be shit ostorozhny.Dayut reference to this work Golitsyn.
This work of the artist Golitsyn, II Shit a ton.
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The letter itself, and photos of paintings:
From: Felix BURMAN burmann@mail.ru Posted on April 28, 2010 at 23:08
sell now Golitsyn, II oil on canvas, 1941 Price: 35000 USD, the reference to other works http://www.artlib.ru/index.php?id=11...0&user_serie=0

Евгений 29.04.2010 10:47

This egghead "Felix" wrote in PM :"... there examination of the Grabar "..
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Once again I want to warn all (even if there is expertise), present a picture signed "Golitsyn, II" - Fufel.

29.04.2010 17:36

Цитата:

Сообщение от Eugene (Сообщение 339746)
Article of the Criminal Code on them has long been crying.
An example is http://www.gzt.ru/incident/2007/12/11/155331.html

Nothing they do not shine, nothing! Is that face those who cluttered up in a private place to a more expensive not done.
And your example is not correct. Case Preobrazhensky-zakazukha to select a business using high pokrovitelstvom.Ob knows that all antique dealers in Moscow.
Know and silent in a rag, shaking for your business!

Кирилл Сызранский 29.04.2010 18:37

Цитата:

Сообщение от Vyacheslav (Сообщение 1065472)
Case Preobrazhensky

Transfiguration not create rlddelok.
They rented a cabin on kommisiyu these, as it turned out, a fake picture with already examinations to prove their authenticity.

Евгений 29.04.2010 18:46

Цитата:

Сообщение от Cyril Syzranskiy (Сообщение 1065512)
And who bought at Western auctions these paintings, who organized their perelitsovku and obtaining expertise just something and not been convicted.

All right, but not always so well will be for those who are directly engaged in manufacturing of shit recently in the U.S. gave (so craftsmen), it seems years 6 and confiscation .. (somewhere on the forum wrote about this).

Кирилл Сызранский 29.04.2010 18:57

Цитата:

Сообщение от Eugene (Сообщение 1065522)
recently in the U.S.

Lord, Eugene!
"USA"! You talking about?

Here, I have said, production and launch to market shit is divided into function /performers. You have one, the artist-musician will bring? Or restorer-starinschika? Or manufacturer podpisulki? Or the dealer first? You are dealing with a 8-10 person in the chain ...
A leader of the "project" will be away from anyone.

29.04.2010 19:03

Цитата:

Сообщение от Cyril Syzranskiy (Сообщение 1065512)
Transfiguration not create fakes

Tell that to those with enviable persistence continues to assert the opposite in terms of official information!
And those who are loudly called "fraudulent group"-a bunch of unwashed artisans, stu Ddlokhov brains.
They just pitiful nesmyshlenoshi compared with the "pros" fill the Ukrainian auctions.

Кирилл Сызранский 29.04.2010 19:04

Цитата:

Сообщение от Vyacheslav (Сообщение 1065552)
fills Ukrainian auctions

Not only Ukrainian. :D


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