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John Preston 21.04.2009 20:25

Let's discuss the price of Savrasov
 
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I present to your attention two works, if I may, Savrasov.

1. Summer Day, canvas, canvas, 44,5 x 29,5 cm

2. Winter Night, canvas, oil, 45 x 29,8 cm

The paintings were purchased in Rostov-on-Don in 1943, then kept in the family theater figures.
From the documents is "the study of materials and technological methods center for historical and traditional technologies Rossiyskogo Research Institute of Cultural and Natural Heritage them. DSLikhachev, graphology expert Interior Ministry, expert opinion from the Yaroslavl Art Museum ...

What, in your opinion, the real price of these paintings in the current market conditions? :)

P.S. Excuse me while I put only the signature and the backdrop of one of the paintings, the second does not have photos, but I assure you there, too, so everything is beautiful, as in the first.

Sandro 21.04.2009 20:33

John Preston, well, beauty - no words!


But expertise is not enough to evaluate the paintings of the author.

John Preston 21.04.2009 20:35

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John Preston, well, beauty - no words!


But expertise is not enough to evaluate the paintings of the author.

Explain comments: ernichaete or serious? ;)

Sandro 21.04.2009 21:46

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Explain comments: ernichaete or serious?

Quite seriously, Pts. beautiful things, happy to decorate their collection, with the full confidence in the authenticity. Unfortunately in the case with such names should never rely solely on their sense and experience, do not you explain to me.

John Preston 21.04.2009 21:54

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Quite seriously, Pts. beautiful things, happy to decorate their collection, with the full confidence in the authenticity. Unfortunately in the case with such names should never rely solely on their sense and experience, do not you explain to me.

Well ... It is a pity that the seller for reasonable money to give do not want the price ceiling requests ... ))

Sandro 21.04.2009 21:57

John Preston, then we must bear Grabar, or at least in the commercial GTG, and after that had - at a price. "

John Preston 21.04.2009 22:00

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John Preston, then we must bear Grabar, or at least in the commercial GTG, and after that had - at a price ".

And the address commercial GTG does not prompt?

Sandro 21.04.2009 22:15

John Preston, the exact address will not say, but is in an office building in the basement of Tolmachevskom Lane. GTGshnoy directly opposite the church. The only but - there a lot, I think more than Grabar.

Кирилл Сызранский 21.04.2009 22:17

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but the only thing - there is quite expensive, I think more than Grabar.

But I said, "but quickly." : D

Amateur 23.04.2009 09:14

In the photo "Winter Nights" horse seems a little incongruous - like the size of the dog. Also, shadows from the pipes at various houses are not directed to one side. Could Savrasov so mistaken in the shadows and perspective?

23.04.2009 10:15

John Preston Before discussing the price, make the examination in institutions, as you recommended. I am sure you are very disappointed with the results.

раскатов 23.04.2009 12:16

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What about the signature?

Serg987 23.04.2009 12:34

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Сообщение от John Preston (Сообщение 337166)
to present you the two works, if I may, Savrasov.
graphology expert MIA

  Who did handwriting analysis in the Interior Ministry and when? Officially or expert expressed his personal opinion? I am interested for myself, because there is a pattern with two lines of the author's text, and would like to check on that side.

sergejnowo 23.04.2009 14:39

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John Preston, then we must bear Grabar, or at least in the commercial GTG, and after that had - at a price ".

a couple of times asked another Muscovite, 3-4 years ago to show in commercial GTG pictures and graphics. Everything was humanely, bullshit does not even have to consider - to weed out immediately. Show graphic AK Savrasov, - looked, and said that actually he was told that you can safely sell. To the question, but as there is in writing and so on, said that if anyone should be - let us call. Kopeck not taken, all on the price list.:)
This is what I have, if it is a real AK Savrasov, - you and say, go and for minimal overhead. And only then can and speak for the certification and there are different tests. Well, if controversial picture - it long and foggy. I would have for himself the disputed Savrasov, as an investment, would not take.: Cool:

Кирилл Сызранский 23.04.2009 16:39

The first picture old woman funny. C a child and dog.

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3-4 years ago to show in the commercial State Tretyakov Gallery, paintings and graphics

You testified in the State Tretyakov Gallery in order to make commercial expertise, ie paid as an order from the physical individual.
And now it comes to commercial organizations-Research and an independent examination of them. PM Tretyakov.

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Sandro, I understand you correctly, you are the organization had in mind when they wrote it?
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commercial GTG



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