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Amateur 17.04.2009 16:23

Why do artists do not sign their work?
 
Why? I do not mean the Middle Ages or icons - where its rules. And the artists of the XX century, those-why? I can understand when a picture or sketch out little weak - so that you do not want to associate them with your name, so eliminate them, because after all, there were many. And the question does not arise. But if "race" and the product did not kill as Taras Bulba, means - recognized, and then give it to him as a father, his name ... And then roam the world thousands of unsigned paintings as abandoned children and the poor collectors are forced to spend effort and money to establish paternity, sorry, on the attribution. But seriously, what is still driven by the artists, when they do not sign their work? Because often it is not for the weak jobs ...

Vladimir 17.04.2009 16:33

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Сообщение от Amateur (Сообщение 326756)
After all, often it is not for the weak jobs ...

Perhaps an element of pride? Type so unique, that skhodu should know. And who is known not sign? Krasnopevtsev sometimes. It seems to be the front Lentulov signature is not set, but who else?

Allena 17.04.2009 16:45

Here, at the forum, the artists are - and just today: p I wonder would their opinions on this subject to know.

Glasha 17.04.2009 16:45

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Сообщение от Amateur (Сообщение 326756)
And then roam the world thousands of unsigned paintings as abandoned children ....
  Because often it is not for the weak jobs ...

Also grieved when I see such a thing ...

Lyubov Popova did not sign ... female is more typical, in my opinion ,...-
here once already been discussion on this topic

Allena 17.04.2009 16:46

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Сообщение от Vladimir (Сообщение 326786)
Perhaps an element of pride? Type so unique, that skhodu should know.

Or maybe just lose interest in the finished product, dragged the new one.

vyadem 17.04.2009 16:53

perhaps people are just writing for myself ... something that gave or sold - then sign ... I think many people simply enjoy the process and the final result, the picture - only its logical conclusion ..

Amateur 17.04.2009 17:03

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Сообщение от vyadem (Сообщение 326876)
, many simply enjoy the process and the final result, the picture - only its logical conclusion ..

Enjoying the process is complete when about razultate this process the author can say: "Ah yes, Pushkin, ah yes son of a bitch!". I will subscribe to the result. And if the only pleasure from the process, but not on the result, it turns ... how to say it mildly ... But in this case, I asked about unsigned Good job, good in the sense it is the result. They, then why not subscribe?

vyadem 17.04.2009 17:11

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Сообщение от Amateur (Сообщение 326886)
And if the only pleasure from the process, but not from the result, it turns ... how to say it mildly ...

tell it, for example, the Japanese with their tea ceremony .. and in general style of thinking and life:)

Allena 17.04.2009 17:19

It seems to me that any creative work - is first and foremost it is the pleasure of the process, and the result is secondary: "Not for Sale inspiration, but you can sell a manuscript." And "Ah yes ...", Pushkin seems to me, is not relevant to the result, namely, the creative enthusiasm (not able to write simpler: shy:), has gone through the process.

Кирилл Сызранский 17.04.2009 17:24

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Сообщение от Amateur (Сообщение 326756)
what is still driven by the artists, when they do not sign their work?

I asked one about it.
He told me that once back in college a master of his remark made about his sprawling signature, they say, should be modest, young man.
Since then he has to poke into the bottom corner of the picture and zastovlyat to sign and date.
But on the back of all the signs in detail.
And one already mature artist colleague once said: "unsigned painting, an unfinished painting. Made this for him, this phrase seems that once tore all to sign. Even long sold gladly signed and now calls himself a "fool" for unsigned work.

Allena 17.04.2009 17:37

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky (Сообщение 326946)
And yet another is already a mature artist colleague once said: "unsigned painting, an unfinished painting. Made this for him, this phrase seems that once tore all to sign. Even long sold gladly signed and now calls himself a "fool" for unsigned work.

How true! Thank you, Kirill.

Do not want to be ironic, but I feel not help myself, sorry: shy:: years of some sort through ten of some wise man, doubted the provenance, will carry a picture, for example, Grabar. And there it will please: Signature made much later than most paintings. And the conclusion is ...

Or maybe an artist creating a painting, internally resisted termination status? Psychologically, he is not comfortable: as long as something is not signed, it is still part of the author, the author has not yet separated from their child, and the signature as a "cut the umbilical cord and sent the creation of an independent life.

vyadem 17.04.2009 17:41

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Сообщение от Allena (Сообщение 327006)
And there it will please: Signature made much later than most paintings. And the conclusion is ...

I had such a history has been with the picture Krihatskogo:). Suffered restorer-expert ... said that the work is undoubtedly his, but the signature is struck later ... I was not upset .. the main thing that a good picture:)

Кирилл Сызранский 17.04.2009 17:43

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Сообщение от Allena (Сообщение 327006)
And there it will please: Signature made much later than most paintings. And the conclusion is ...

It's not terrible, many artists have already signed a "later". Even already on lacquer. Often. Signed, then his. And on the back of it all. His hand.

antip 17.04.2009 17:46

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Сообщение от Amateur (Сообщение 326756)
what is still driven by the artists, when they do not sign their work?

Always ask these questions and share what I znayu.Znakomy artist
having no professional education, by its nature a very shy,
their work is not podpisyval.Na remark that a good idea to do it, for posterity,
stories, etc. ... replied:, Yes, who will assess the painted woman erases
underwear in the hole with his hands red with cold, ugly, and with poluvyvalevshoy
from under Kozhushko breast? "This is it, woman - an object for admiration, its values, persistence, vyzhyvaemosti, Russian tolerance .... And finally, what am I?
I did something to change this life? Sitting in sheepskin, paint ...
No, sign this ... it would be awkward, so this woman for himself and for me,
signed.

nikola 17.04.2009 18:37

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Сообщение от Amateur (Сообщение 326756)
Why do artists do not sign their work?

I do not think that much of the work on the hands of collectors are not signed.

In general, one of the answers can be like that. Not signed as a rule do not complete the work. Do not completed according to the author. It would not put the last point. This is not complete in most cases and there is a good thing.
Work more vibrant, thought they did not break off.
And pay attention. If the signature is painted with a special love, the work shows that the result for the author, the subject of admiration, is just a signature.

A general work, as two drops of water similar to the photograph of the artist.
as a something to show, prove it.


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