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Jan 05.04.2009 20:38

It seems whether KA Somov?
 
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I ask advice from the experts. According to the seller, it is - the last self-portrait intravital Konstantin Andreevich Somov (no examination). Can you believe this? Signed - Cyrillic: "K. Somov" - and this is the main argument of opponents of the authenticity of the portrait. However, canvas, primer, and manner of writing is very similar to the manner of the great romance - this is orally informed the expert consultation Tretyakov Gallery (in the State Tretyakov Gallery, it seems, is limited to providing services assess the paintings). Thank you in advance for your attention and advice.

Кирилл Сызранский 05.04.2009 20:49

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Here's one of his last self-portraits.
Self-portrait in a mirror. 1928, paper, pastel, 37.2x26.8
Ashmolean Museum, Oxford

uriart 06.04.2009 07:13

Jan, where it could be the work of Luba, I did not avtoprtretom. It is not like.

Jan 06.04.2009 09:31

uriart, the fact of the matter is that like! Look at the early self-portraits. Indeed, the self-portrait of 1928 is widely known, it confirms the "Self-Portrait in a pince-nez" (almost one person), but, if we assume that the one I am talking about, was written in the second half of the 30-ies, when the artist was already much older and, moreover, was ill - very, very possible that this is the original! Miracles do not happen, but would like to believe.

uriart 06.04.2009 10:19

A simple comparison.
The shape of the nose.
Somov was a snub-nosed.
And your portrait depicts a man with an aquiline profile.
Where too next?

Кирилл Сызранский 06.04.2009 10:54

Jan, but you know from Somov self-portraits in profile?

uriart 06.04.2009 12:13

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Jan, See for yourself at somovsky nose.
If it looks like, I Charles de Gaulle!

Serg987 06.04.2009 13:06

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Maybe it is depicted F. Sologub? A photograph of a portrait can be full face, rather than the side. Add a light, but not flash. And where zagadachnaya signature "K Somov"? ... All the same little weak Portet for Luba.

Jan 06.04.2009 18:36

Self-portraits in profile to see Somov was not necessary. But here rather than profile, and three quarters ...

Jan 06.04.2009 18:40

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Signature ...

Тютчев 06.04.2009 23:23

   Here are a few self-portraits.

   Somov - the great Russian artist. Each portrait of his work - this, at least, a work of art with a capital letter. His self-portraits - is another story altogether. Imagine that he could write such a vapid self-portrait, I can not. And most importantly, why? Look closely at his work - there is a riddle game, irony, disorderly conduct, in the end. Where in this portrait puzzle game, irony? Why would he suddenly change itself in a single self-portrait?

K-Maler 07.04.2009 01:03

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Сообщение от Jan (Сообщение 304276)
on the approval of the seller, this - the last self-portrait intravital Konstantin Andreevich Somov (no examination). Can you believe this? Signed - Cyrillic: "K. Somov" - and this is the main argument of opponents of the authenticity of the portrait. However, cardboard, soil and manner of writing is very similar to the manner of the great romance - this is in the oral consultation

Yes, it looks like. Look in the book of EV, Zhuravleva, Konstantin Somov, "Moscow" Art "1980.V end of the two self-portrait, 28 g. and 34 (in the mirror). It seems that other self-portraits, he also made "through the mirror, as if he was looking at another person (ie, using the second mirror), so sometimes the artist does seem to be more happened, because when we look directly, then because of specular see a little bit wrong ... Portrait of 28 g. (In the book) a young, but in the same turn and the entire left lower cheek and mustache fit, and a portrait of 34 g. already with the bald forehead, but there is visible cheek with the same, but the effort is folded slightly down. And the reception lighting laying shadows on the profile vyudu one, so it was easier to achieve the similarity, because uncomfortable draw ... The book also stated that there is a self-portrait, whose whereabouts are unknown.

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky (Сообщение 304296)
from one of his last self-portraits.
Self-portrait in a mirror. 1928, paper, pastel, 37.2x26.8
Ashmolean Museum, Oxford

Zhuravleva mentions it, but then lists a few more, there is a portrait of a pince-nez and another in a square mirror with a still life of things on the table, 34g.Umer KA Somov 6 May 1939. 70 th year of life. Perhaps he looked so. Signed and must be in Cyrillic, and it is normal modestly staged, as it was then adopted, without a bulging ...

Тютчев 07.04.2009 02:09

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Сообщение от K-Maler (Сообщение 305946)

  Maybe he looked like this.

                                                                                                                             Perhaps he had looked. Who knows? But what happened exactly, so that it is not represented, nor myself, nor anyone, it might be.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                   "He was ... a model of a great master, who, with great talent, thought it necessary to work very hard on its every thing, seeking perfection technology and the most expressive transfer their inner feelings."
                                                                                                                                                                   AP Ostroumova - Lebedev
                                                                                                              Do not hurt Konstantin Andreevich!



K-Maler 07.04.2009 03:01

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Сообщение от Tjutchev (Сообщение 305976)
em? But what happened exactly, so that he is not represented, nor myself, nor anyone, then, neither was.

On the small picture it looks like it does not matter, it is too dark. But at high magnifications shows that with the painting all right, she is very good, or daub, no errors, all colors are harmonious and tastefully laid. Between the portrait of 28 g. and 34 g. (y Zhuravleva) passed 10 years and see how he had aged. But it was another 5 years and he had aged more ... I think he wanted to impress themselves and so, look carefully at the big increase - a good painting, and the expression in the eye area seem.

Тютчев 07.04.2009 03:21

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Сообщение от K-Maler (Сообщение 305996)
28 g between the portrait. and 34 g. (y Zhuravleva) passed 10 years and see how he had aged. But it was another 5 years and he had aged more ... I think he wanted to impress themselves and so ,...

           Maybe Somov had plastic surgery? Interestingly, at the time they have done or not? Who knows? : confused:


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