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Аристарх 30.01.2014 20:59

Ask attributing picture 1896
 
Good evening, dear experts, please attribute and evaluate the picture, dubbed "cow", x /m, size 40/71.

Advance grateful.

John Preston 30.01.2014 21:20

Zygmunt PIOTROWICZ (1862-1956/57)


By nationality, judging by the name, the Pole ...

Jane Doe 30.01.2014 21:36

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Сообщение от John Preston (Сообщение 2966921)
PIOTROWICZ

I also stopped by this author, although still considered Antoni Piotrowicz 1863-1923 and Pawel Piotrowicz 1832-1919.

Zygmunt most famous painting - "Bargaining"

Paul - "A source in the woods."

But I think that agrees with John Preston,

uriart 30.01.2014 21:49

Jane Doe, and what such a difference in coloring between the works?

What is the reason?

John Preston 30.01.2014 21:56

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Сообщение от Jane Doe (Сообщение 2966961)
Pawel Piotrowicz 1832-1919.

I dismissed his candidacy , as is none other than the Russian painter Pavel Petrovich Chistyakov (Pawel PIOTROWICZ CZYSTIAKOW (1832-1919)) in some strange writing on the Polish manner , according to the databases . And it can not be him , of course ... <! - ~ 7 ~ ->

Added after 27 minutes
A kskati Sigmund and Sigismund - a name or not?

Here are found some interesting information on the site artchive. Perhaps it is this very Sigmund /Sigismund Piotrowicz was volshoslushatelem Imperial Academy of Arts ...

Sigismund Karlovic Piotrowicz
Year of birth 1862

Extern Academy of Fine Arts in 1881 In 1884 - a small incentive medal , in 1893 - the title of the artist's paintings neklassnogo " Drizzle ", " Fair ", etc. ( Kondakov )

Jane Doe 30.01.2014 23:38

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Сообщение от uriart; 2966971"
Jane Doe, and what such a difference in coloring between the works ?
Why is that ?

Uniquely to your question is difficult to answer .
But I think this is due to the fact that it is the work of different artists - Zygmunt ( Sigismund ) Piotrowicz Paul Piotrowicz (Pawel PIOTROWICZ CZYSTIAKOW). Yes, it is resources and give the picture as Paul Piotrowicz . Hopefully mistake.

Аристарх 31.01.2014 09:42

Many thanks to Jane Doe and John Preston for your answers, but unfortunately clarity regarding this, they brought.
Maybe there will be even are any thoughts on this picture?

Sincerely.

Кирилл Сызранский 31.01.2014 10:41

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Сообщение от Jane Doe (Сообщение 2967401)
Yes, it is resources and give the picture as Paul Piotrowicz.

On Google helps those who help themselves.
<! - ~ 7 ~ ->

Борис Кон 31.01.2014 10:45

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Сообщение от Aristarchus (Сообщение 2967691)
Many thanks to Jane Doe and John Preston for your answers , but unfortunately clarity regarding this , they brought . Maybe there will be even are any thoughts on this picture?
Sincerely .

What is there to wonder amateur painting , sit down next to this famous Polish author fail.

Аристарх 01.02.2014 16:04

Diametrically opposite opinions , but I do not understand anything . Still would like to get answers , ie is it possible to identify the author of the cost of a given picture in its present condition and the additional question , how much can cost restoration of this in Moscow?
Sincerely .

Кирилл Сызранский 01.02.2014 16:34

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Сообщение от Aristarchus ; 2969991"
but I did not understand

For example, I , too , so everything said here and just forgot to look at your image .
She told me pretty, I do not know the author nor could I just read his signature, because of the price and not think anything , but the price of the restoration is largely from the restorer - whom You give .
But I do not see any difficulties there too special - to strengthen , to clean , to bring the soil in some places , toned .
Holes like no, darn it is not necessary ?

Аристарх 01.02.2014 16:49

Unfortunately there is one small, about 5 mm, and everything is as you described.

Кирилл Сызранский 01.02.2014 16:52

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Сообщение от Aristarchus (Сообщение 2970151)
there is one small, about 5 mm


Well, darn, no great problem.

Wladzislaw 02.02.2014 16:38

Somewhere in the county high school in a certain Ukrainian city served a teacher of drawing a Mr. Petrovich.

Кирилл Сызранский 02.02.2014 18:04

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Сообщение от Wladzislaw (Сообщение 2971961)
Somewhere in the county high school in a certain Ukrainian city served as a teacher of drawing a Mr. Petrovich .

Russia's first county rural high school was opened in Vyazma Smolensk province August 30, 1869 .
This fact was so great that " the opening ceremony of prominent dignitaries arrived from Smolensk and St. Petersburg . In Moscow in 1869 about this book was released .
By the opening of Alexander II sent a telegram read out August 31 Chairman of Smolensk province rural council and leader of the provincial nobility, one of the most consistent and staunch supporters of the need to create a gymnasium , SS Ivanov : "I wish with all my heart prosperity and strengthen the newly opened high school and I am glad that I could take her under his wing ," "Alexander" .
Alexander II gave his consent to the assignment Vyazemsk gymnasium name " Alexander Smolensky gymnasium zemstvo in Vyazma ."
Professional level of teachers of the Alexander county rural gymnasium Viaz'ma was very high. Thus, among the high school teachers were graduates of the Moscow , St. Petersburg , the University of Tartu . Scientific and educational works gymnasium teachers were in demand not only in Vyazma , but also in Smolensk, St. - Petersburg, Moscow .
They were issued "Geography of the Russian Empire ," " Elementary textbook Latin " primers "General History ", " Russian history ", etc.
First historian Alexander Vyazemsk county high school was her teacher , a graduate of the University of Warsaw I. Vinogradov - scientist , historian , ethnographer and translator. Owned ancient Greek , German, Polish and Old Church Slavonic language, is the author of several textbooks and manuals on history .
Wrote a history Viaz'ma created a historical museum and archive .
In the 90s of the XIX century Vyazemskaya county rural high school was considered one of the most privileged schools in the province. In high school there was the situation of psychological and pedagogical compatibility between school administration and teaching staff , she formed a community that later, in the XX century , VASuhomlinskogo defined as a group of associates .


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