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redbor 29.12.2013 13:41

Aivazovsky. In the sea at dawn.
 
Вложений: 2
Painting IK
Aivazovsky.
oil on canvas, size: 54 x 71 cm

Interesting assessment of this work.

Now how much you can actually sell?

And for how much it makes sense to buy the same picture?
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VadimTolstoy 29.12.2013 13:59

Signature density another, false.

Aivazovsky painting is not too fractional.

Artoil-A 29.12.2013 14:03

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Сообщение от redbor (Сообщение 2920511)
IK Painting Aivazovsky. oil on canvas, size: 54 x 71 cm
Interesting assessment of this work.
Now how much you can actually sell?
And for how much it makes sense to buy the same picture ? <! - ~ 1 ~ ->

There are doubts in the picturesque : the sea, sky and rock many fields almost the same tone or color , no " soft " painting. These fields are no games or extra warmth - cold game. Feels like , because of this tip is just like standing cliff above the sea.
 Many stylistic repetition , for example, in the clouds. Therefore it is required to verify authorship.

redbor 29.12.2013 14:20

Вложений: 1
I can not say about the fields and the game heat with cold,
 
but I know that this picture has an album Ivan Aivazovsky.
Large collection.
- Volume 2

Artoil-A 29.12.2013 14:46

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Сообщение от redbor (Сообщение 2920581)
I can not say about the game fields and heat with cold,
 but I know that this picture has an album Ivan Aivazovsky . Large collection . - Volume 2

Usually capital printers are known to work . Difference in the coloring can not see between the first illustration and book ? And if you see something random such a difference ?

uriart 29.12.2013 15:43

redbor, All works reproduced in books publishing "White City" must be carefully checked.

Николай Левенко 29.12.2013 16:33

Вложений: 2
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Сообщение от VadimTolstoy; 2920551"
Signature density another , false .
Aivazovsky painting is not too fractional

Totally agree with you , work Aivazovsky clearly does not belong . Original paintings by Aivazovsky repeatedly exposed for sale . In July 1996, Sotheby's picture came in a private collection in Germany. In November 2005, the painting was exhibited at Christie's auction , lot number 83 , estimate 300,000 - 400,000 pounds, or 540 000 - 710 000 $ or 440 000 - 580 000. To my knowledge the last time in 2009, it was auctioned with an estimate Koller 900,000 - 1.2 million Swiss francs, which is equivalent to 590 000 - 780 000. It should be noted that the work is known by several names : " Riders on the cliff top at sunset " or "Coast of the Caucasus " , or " Marina ", the size 101h66 . A few words about the album. Album " Big collection of " how -2 abounds considerable number , to put it mildly , questionable works by Aivazovsky .

Кирилл Сызранский 29.12.2013 16:33

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Сообщение от uriart (Сообщение 2920691)
All works reproduced in books publishing "White City" must be carefully checked.

Well, actually, not all, but only of " from private collections ".

redbor 29.12.2013 20:09

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Сообщение от Nikolai Levenko ; 2920761"
It should be noted that the work is known by several names : " Riders on the cliff top at sunset " or "Coast of the Caucasus " , or " Marina ", the size 101h66 .

Nicholas Levenko this is probably a very different picture ? Aivazovsky , because there are similar things ?
 The picture that I show and whose image is in the album - certainly looks like you and shown on the former at the auction, but it's a different picture - riders there, but there is a second ship, and the outlines of rocks and mountains - other and etc. ..
It was signed in the left corner , and " my " - right .

Николай Левенко 29.12.2013 21:47

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Сообщение от redbor (Сообщение 2921101)
I think it's a different picture?

Of course the other, I do not claim that this is it.
I just gave a sample of the original work by Aivazovsky.

redbor 30.12.2013 10:25

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Сообщение от Nikolai Levenko (Сообщение 2920761)
Aivazovsky work clearly does not belong.
Original paintings by Aivazovsky repeatedly exposed for sale.

That is, are you sure it's a fake?

But the authenticity of the painting, which was sold - was confirmed by someone?

Николай Левенко 30.12.2013 20:04

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Сообщение от redbor; 2921691"
But the authenticity of the painting, which was sold - was confirmed by someone ?

Specify a specific expert opinion I can not. Since I do not own this picture, and on the Internet itself is not vsrechal . But we can assume that passing such auctions like Sotheby's and Christie's , this work has gained the necessary papers .

Беляш 05.01.2014 12:07

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Сообщение от redbor (Сообщение 2920581)
I can not say about the game fields and heat with cold,
 
but I know that this picture has an album Ivan Aivazovsky.
Large collection.
- Volume 2


In this book, 35 percent bullshit

Николай Левенко 23.01.2014 22:02

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzran ; 2920771"
Well, actually, not all, but only of " private meetings ."

Let me disagree with you , Cyril .
Albums now published very casually , looking at reproductions, there are questions to galleries . Cite two examples related to the work of Aivazovsky funds TG - compare black and white postcards , published before the revolution and contemporary images of this work , published in the album. This begs the question to the State Tretyakov Gallery , " Lord , where the originals ? "

Артём 24.01.2014 00:08

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Сообщение от Nikolai Levenko (Сообщение 2952391)
Albums now published very casually

Maybe it baldeyut publishers?
I'm with my favorite A.Kiselevym same bad luck started.

Aivazovsky not there ...


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