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DDD077 22.12.2013 18:58

Help with that assessment!
 
Вложений: 4
Help with the evaluation and the nature of the origin ...

Painting ... oil on canvas ...
together with a rim 60 cm * 75 cm, in the family since the early 20th century, maybe a little earlier ... earlier ancestors lived in Kenningsberge ... there, and actually brought this creation ...

Artoil-A 22.12.2013 19:51

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Сообщение от DDD077 (Сообщение 2910511)
Help with the evaluation and the nature of the origin ...
Painting ... oil on canvas ... together with a rim 60 cm * 75 cm, in the family since the early 20th century , maybe a little earlier ... earlier ancestors lived in Kenningsberge ... there, and actually brought this creation ...

Good commercial work . Everything depends on its preservation.

DDD077 22.12.2013 19:55

Artoil-A,

Price range prompt??:

sergejnowo 22.12.2013 20:02

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Сообщение от Artoil-A (Сообщение 2910621)
Good commercial work

unless you consider a price frame, what and why do you see this work commercially?

Андрей Жданов 22.12.2013 20:10

under that name only one known professional artist turn of the century Walter Fürle, sold one work - a portrait of the Bavarian King Ludwig III.

the picture itself is a typical heavy German landscape , estimate 250 - 260 euros

but just the same frame is worthless - Germany , mass production 30-40 years

Кирилл Сызранский 22.12.2013 20:24

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Сообщение от Andrei Zhdanov, 2910671
but just the same frame is worthless - Germany, the mass production of 30-40 years


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Сообщение от Andrei Zhdanov, 2910671
but just the same frame is worthless - Germany, the mass production of 30-40 years


Where such a frame "worthless"?

sergejnowo 22.12.2013 20:24

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Сообщение от Andrei Zhdanov, 2910671
but just the same frame is worthless - Germany, the mass production of 30-40 years

Type roll on every corner or the Chinese produce one to one for 30 rubles?

What obosnuete?

Кирилл Сызранский 22.12.2013 20:27

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Сообщение от Andrei Zhdanov, 2910671
picture itself typical stodgy German landscape, estimate 250 - 260 euro

 
"Typical heavy landscapes" bought at European auctions, washed the author's signature, signed Shishkin go Kiselyov and sold in Russia for hundreds of thousands of dollars.

Андрей Жданов 22.12.2013 20:43

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write the inscription on this picture Shishkin, who will lead you from?


45 euros including shipping to anywhere in Europe

do not want to take


shaft of such a framework, of all sizes, even the Chinese do not have to go <! - ~ 7 ~ -> want the mirror, you want to just

sergejnowo 22.12.2013 21:12

Andrei Zhdanov, you want to hurt nobody, but you prove the opposite:

Shipment costs 9 euros.

So the same frame worth 36 euros.

Size for work 42,5 x 32 cm


Discussed size 60 x 75 cm

Кирилл Сызранский 22.12.2013 21:14

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Сообщение от Andrei Zhdanov , 2910771"
write on this picture inscription Shishkin , who will lead you from ?

Because it does not work presented typical German landscape - this time.
And second, because public speaking - " German Landscape" is like saying " German music ." What's this? Beethoven or Orff , Bohm or Wagner, Stockhausen or Bach ?

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Сообщение от Andrei Zhdanov, 2910771
45 euros including shipping to anywhere in Europe

 
And how much mail in Russia, for example?
Yes, multiply the current exchange rate to the euro?
This "worthless"?

Андрей Жданов 22.12.2013 21:19

If oyro 30-40 per frame is a substantial sum, then pardon MUA.
Talk to the poor is not my profile.

Кирилл Сызранский 22.12.2013 21:25

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Сообщение от Andrei Zhdanov , 2910861"
If oyro 30-40 per frame is a substantial sum , then pardon MUA .

 Money - any - in my opinion must be taken seriously . And respectful .

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Сообщение от Andrei Zhdanov , 2910861"
Talk to the poor is not my profile.

 And, yes , yes ...
Who does not have a billion , can go to hell . ( a ) :D>


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