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Konstantin 13.11.2013 12:03

Records Christie's
 
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Went to Christie's to see the results of yesterday's Post-War and Contemporary, so yes there he remained.
Stunned .
For all news regurgitate the news about the new record prices for paintings - triptych by Francis Bacon 142 405 000 $ . And the estimate was available on request , according to unofficial sources in the $ 85 million that was just a sales record Bacon. That is, they started with a record - safely . I thank God not asked to make a prediction on it , and then sat down in a puddle with his careful - " He'll get away before the $ 100 million " to assume more afraid . But would not write about it - there all auction such amounts less than a few million , and there is almost . It feels that this group of artists began to lead in the prices of all the others, including the Impressionists.
Moreover if I had the choice (and maybe still is , you never know ... ) to hang at home with Monet or Rothko Basquiat - Basquiat would hang it from Rothko .
But go over the prices , warm ourselves in the glow of millions , so to speak.

Basquiat lot number 6
$ 12,037,000 Estimate $ 7,000,000 - $ 9,000,000
Head of Madman

Basquiat Lot number 15
$ 29,285,000 Estimate $ 25,000,000 - $ 35,000,000
Untitled

Jeff Koons Lot 12
$ 58,405,000 Estimate $ 35,000,000 - $ 55,000,000
Balloon Dog (Orange)

Andy Warhol Lot 27
$ 57,285,000 Estimate $ 40,000,000 - $ 60,000,000

Roy Lichtenstein Lot 34
Seductive Girl
$ 31,525,000 Estimate $ 22,000,000 - $ 28,000,000

Gerhard Richter Lot 35
$ 20,885,000
Abstraktes Bild (809-1)

Willem de Kooning Lot 37
$ 32,085,000 Estimate $ 20,000,000 - $ 30,000,000

Jackson Pollock Lot 39
$ 32,645,000 Estimate $ 25,000,000 - $ 35,000,000

Well, how cool is that?
And though that be not sold to exclaim in the hearts - yes. And also interested in:
Takashi MurakamiLot 57
Estimate $ 2,000,000 - $ 3,000,000

Why not buy this wonderful three-meter Woman - a mystery . With this Estima , just to surrender who may be able to take.

Konstantin 13.11.2013 12:28

I wonder why this company is not Hirst?

bykinist 13.11.2013 12:39

Imagine the "scope" of the international market scale of Western contemporary art is to launder money.
Launderers do not want.
Hurry to our shadow structures have realized this, we'll live here!
))

Konstantin 13.11.2013 12:46

Our shadow structures give each other icons and the market (as I have recently said one trader icons ) is thriving.
About money laundering in our country - what amounts of money are talking about? About the tens and hundreds of millions of dollars? For those who have it so the question is not necessary to wash the need to trust the system , and understand that if properly laundered (or honestly earned) that matters to you , no one will. Conversely , if not laundered sooner or later caught. Both options are not our case , so instead of just washing the capital out of the country.

Кирилл Сызранский 13.11.2013 15:24

I wonder about that " money laundering " at the auctions.
Does anyone smodet explain it to me ?
Laundering , as I understand it , is the legalization of criminal money . How this money may be legalized by buying Basquiat painting , for example, at auction Christie's?

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Сообщение от Konstantin; 2843691 "
and the market (as I have recently said one trader icons ) is thriving .

At the market, very different amounts , you hardly find a sale of Russian icons for a million dollars, if at all here.
In Russia , for example , the most expensive icon ( and one of the most expensive sales autsionnyh icons in the world ) , sold at public auction - " Nikola in the Life of " the end of the XV century , Gelos , 207 g - 7,000,000 rubles. ( $ 274 000 ) .
Maybe someone knows the numbers above?

Konstantin 13.11.2013 15:43

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky ; 2843871 "
On the market at all other amounts

In the words of the same seller icons - Icons in the price range 20 000 - 50 000 $ rarity ( age 18-17 ) and fly to the time . The most difficult segment 500 - 1000 $ . But also for sale .
Giving icon handy because unlike hours where immediately clear how much they cost , the old icon looks solid and expensive.


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Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky ; 2843871 "
How this money may be legalized by buying Basquiat painting

Then perhaps we can talk not about buying and selling on . Sold the painting (even though Basquiat ) got paid for it , paid their taxes , and here they are in the bank laundered . Where did Basquiat ? Well this is the second question - bought 20 -years old back when it was worth $ 20,000 , for example.

Кирилл Сызранский 13.11.2013 15:56

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Сообщение от Konstantin; 2843911 "
Then maybe we can talk not about buying and selling on .

And so - yes.
But , I suppose, like the legalization of criminal money is relevant for the same type of crime , and who is it? Colombian drug lord ? A corrupt official, a " strongman " of Russia ?
That is , in theory, it is clear , but in practice - not very.

I can not imagine Russian " enforcer " with a bag of Nala scour the New York area galleries in search doroguschego Basquiat , so you thing of this website put up for Christie's, in order to get the amount of care to your bank account. <! - ~ 1 ~ ->
Or I have a primitive idea of such a scheme ?

Аркадий 13.11.2013 15:58

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky (Сообщение 2843871)
In Russia , for example , the most expensive icon ( and one of the most expensive sales autsionnyh icons in the world ) , sold at public auction - " Nikola in the Life of " the end of the XV century , Gelos , 207 g - 7,000,000 rubles. ( $ 274 000 ) .
Maybe someone knows the numbers above?
Arkady, what do you say? I have data Famara.

 Icons expensive 100 - 150t . U.S. really rare , it's either the antiquity of the 16th century and earlier, or subscription Mstera things ( Chirikov Gurianov etc. ) or enameled powerfully in salaries suppliers yard EIV .

Wladzislaw 13.11.2013 16:22

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Сообщение от Konstantin (Сообщение 2843641)
Basquiat would hang it from Rothko.


You should not have linked these two authors.
This Basquiat lyasnetsya with a crash, and the sound of the lost fragments of the states.

Кирилл Сызранский 13.11.2013 16:29

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Сообщение от Wladzislaw (Сообщение 2843951)
This Basquiat lyasnetsya with a roar, and the sound of the lost fragments of the states.

When did it happen?

Himself, Jean-Michel Basquiat, recall, died in 1988, a quarter of a century ago.
Incidentally, a year and a half after the death of Andy Warhol, who also still can not "lyasnetsya".

qwerty 13.11.2013 16:33

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Сообщение от Wladzislaw (Сообщение 2843951)
You should not have linked these two authors. This Basquiat lyasnetsya with a crash , and the sound of the lost fragments of the states .

Probably still not. This Basquiat has a number of advantages: he is an American , little black , a drug addict and died young, such a set is no longer anybody. So he - the legend ( untwisted , of course) , and will be bought amerikosy probably always .

Кирилл Сызранский 13.11.2013 16:38

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Сообщение от qwerty (Сообщение 2843981)
So he - the legend (untwisted, of course)

At the age of 24 he was already on the cover The New York Times Magazine .

Konstantin 13.11.2013 16:49

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky ; 2843921 "
hard to imagine Russian " enforcer " with a bag of Nala scour the New York area galleries in search doroguschego Basquiat , so you thing that 's put up for Christie's, for the sake of the amount of care to get into your account bank .

Yes fantastic picture, and do not need to wash them , then do not report to anyone .
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Сообщение от bykinist; 2843681 "
Imagine the " scope " of the international scale of Western contemporary art market is to launder money

That is, do you think that this is not the real purchase, and mafia money launderer ? A Basquiat and Bacon where from? Or just buy now to sell later and thus legalize capital , only washing off - road it turns . This auction Christie's broke records for total revenue .
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It was the most successful auction in the history of Christie's: total revenues were $ 691.6 million

Сергей Дородный 13.11.2013 18:45

Wow , what an interesting topic ! 2x more pages are not written , and only want to argue with half board! That's what a man amounts to 100 lam doing!

Imhi :
1. Murakami did not buy for and for what " free money , free money come " (C ) ? . Yes , big boobs and big Kawainui aunt - it's chorus , but somehow mestyachkovo .
2 . Hirst in this campaign not - can not deliver this time at Christie ? . In general, I have long been pushing a cart that Hurst is not a competitor Koons ( And Pollack and Warhol also esessno ) . He plays in the same league with Murakami .
3 . Basquiat can not collapse , because He is the author of the new ( and latest ) aesthetic paternalistic , which oppresses the aesthetic patern Malevich , Picasso , Rothko ( for aesthetic precepts which mainly takes place and our zhist ) . ( About this I have recently figured out how to write thread - cart) .
4 . And why " our " money laundering ? Are engaged in a little bit of law. And there are open, and the word " diplomat " is perceived as an insult.

Владимир Владимирович 13.11.2013 20:06

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Сообщение от Sergei burly (Сообщение 2844101)
new (and latest) aesthetic paternalistic

What is it?


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