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anton2000 19.09.2013 07:25

Help to learn from Germany's painting and its value
 
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Good day!


The painting was done on cardboard, size about 40 * 30 cm got from his great-grandfather, brought back from Germany after the war.
I would like to know who the author is and whether the value of the painting.


Thank you.

олег назаров 19.09.2013 11:08

For a start if there is a signature look, labels, printing, take a picture of them.
Take a picture of the back.

Jane Doe 19.09.2013 13:41

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Сообщение от anton2000; 2767321 "
after the war in Germany

While I read at the bottom left of the picture Sassnitz 92.
There is a tourist town in Germany.

This , apparently , the place in which the work was written (National Park) . Before the war , in 1892.
anton2000, all signs show a close-up ( bottom right there is something there , too .)

Борис Кон 19.09.2013 14:25

The picture to date.
Well it's seen!

rms1980 19.09.2013 17:07

http://tochkana.ru/Goroda-i-Gosudars...-Sassnitz.html


I for 1992.
(Sorry, that got).

bykinist 19.09.2013 21:20

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Well, yes, the city established in 1906.

Jane Doe 19.09.2013 21:47

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Yeah, founded the city in 1906 .

So what have the city? In 1906, there was an association of two villages - Krampas and Sassnitz . Sassnitz as a fishing village existed before 1892.

From referencesrms1980:
city was formed in 1906 by merging the Association in fishing villages Krampas and Sassnitz . Prior to that area Sassnitz was known as a recreational area . When held here the railway and ferry service established (late 19th century), the value of settlements has increased markedly . However, further developed as a resort of Sassnitz .

From Wikipedia:

In 1871 the road to Sassnitz was upgraded, in 1891 the town was connected to the railway network from Bergen; in 1878 there was a boat service to Stettin; in 1889 to the port in Sassnitz and , soon thereafter, sea links to Rønne (Bornholm), Trelleborg and Memel (now Klaipėda). The new links enabled the place to grow rapidly. The chalk industry expanded, fish and now fish products as well characterised working life, and tourism grew, even though other places with beaches were better developed.

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got from his great-grandfather , brought from Germany after the war .

Let's wait for the author's theme and ask about the great-grandfather . Do not be so immediately disregard this information. anton2000, respond. We are talking about your inheritance.

bykinist 19.09.2013 21:56

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Сообщение от Jane Doe (Сообщение 2768501)

From Wikipedia:


and even in Wikipedia says that until 1993 the name of the German town of Sassnitz written like this: Saßnitz

rms1980 19.09.2013 22:29

I did not sign, I just pushed off:


While I read at the bottom left of the picture Sassnitz 92.

There is a tourist town in Germany.


Jane Doe, asked for a detailed photo, right corner, perhaps, the signature, it would have given the opportunity to say exactly on time (my opinion in 1992).

Jane Doe 19.09.2013 22:31

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until 1993, the city of Sassnitz on the German written like this : Saßnitz

bykinist, rewriting it right , just Saßnitz not written in my life . Put exactly why Vicki and why spelling changed in 1993 .

And on old cards , addresses, envelopes, receipts, even on the cards late 19th and early 20th centuries was Sassnitz. If you need an exact date, I can lay out.

bykinist 19.09.2013 22:49

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Сообщение от Jane Doe (Сообщение 2768651)
bykinist, rewriting it right , just Saßnitz not written in my life . Put exactly why Vicki and why spelling changed in 1993 .

And on old cards , addresses, envelopes, receipts, even on the cards late 19th and early 20th centuries was Sassnitz. If you need an exact date, I can lay out .

ß ligature mark has only lower case , therefore , as the title of the picture is written as a kind of capital letters , that there is no contradiction . You're saying ?

NB for replacing ß ss is used when typing in a technical limitation ( in the old typewriting , the telegraph , etc.) , as well as playing the German names in other languages ​​based on the Latin writing . All of the examples you have a " mechanical" origin.

The aim of the reform was to simplify German spelling , though, in fact, almost ten years of its implementation , and for fifteen years of existence emerged more confusion . The reform has been limited use of the letter ß ( es - zet ), which began to be used only after long vowels and diphthongs (Stoß, saß, beißen), but after a short vowel , where was originally written ß, now written to replace it, the double ss ( eg among the most common example of a modal verb and the union müssen dass).

Jane Doe 20.09.2013 01:39

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Сообщение от bykinist; 2768741 "
you're saying ?

No , not that.

All I wanted to say, I stated in its first report on Dana branch.
http://forum.artinvestment.ru/showpo...81&postcount=3

From a distance of a cannon shot is very difficult to see anything in this picture . If I made ​​a mistake in reading the Sassnitz 92, then sorry .

But now, after 11 messages, everything remains exactly as it was in post number three .

Sassnitz 92.

There are other suggestions, please speak up . Simply otherwise we will continue to waste their time studying the geography of Germany, with its rules of grammar .
If indeed the picture of his great-grandfather , it is very sad for the soldiers who seize all the trash in a row, hoping to take out the priceless art .

bykinist 20.09.2013 02:05

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Сообщение от Jane Doe (Сообщение 2769071)
it is very sad for those warriors


remembered ...
classic)))))))))) (English humor at its best)



anton2000 20.09.2013 07:40

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Yesterday was trying to see that on the back side did not work. Cardboard pasted over with paper. He tried to pull out , but adhered well , starts to tear the painting itself .

I'll write more about it. The assumption is that the picture painted in 1992, is no longer , as it appeared at us much earlier. She lay propped newspaper and covered with tattered dust (even ragged ) edges for a long time . Somewhere about 12 years ago , my parents sent her to the studio , where the ragged edge cut , pasted on construction paper and pasted to the mat and frame with glass. Maybe as a result of trimming cut and signed by the author . On the back of as I remember (12 years ago ) , but my children kryakozyabry nothing, although I could be wrong .
I think if I had a picture of the value in this picture framing studio would say ....

[color="#666686 " ]Added after 8 minutes[/color]
that's the bottom left and right parts . If you can read on the left , then on the right just in my spot .


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