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Dogel 10.09.2013 18:00

Investments in modern Ukrainian art
 
Art- investment in modern Ukrainian art
Local collectors is the time to shop
Ukrainian contemporary artists carefully. their works
can already be called a full-fledged object of investment , the price of
They are steadily growing , forming a pool of names - the "blue chips ".
"According to the achievements we are behind , but on the level of art - not" - says
about themselves and their colleagues Ukrainian artist Anatoly Krivolap as
According Magazine "Money" , the number of 15 August 2013 have in
sale. The level of domestic painters and graphic specialists
appreciated a few decades ago , the work of contemporary
Ukrainian writers - no longer a rarity in European museums
Contemporary art ( modern art).
But noticeable even far from the art of reaching audiences
there were only a couple of years ago. First, in the 2008 painting by Ilya
Chichkan "It" was sold for a record for Ukrainian
Modern Art 73,500 dollars at London auction Phillips de
Pury & Company. Then in 2009 another new record at the Phillips
established painting " Farewell , Caravaggio ! " Alexander Roytburd .
The picture was sold for 97 thousand dollars is now the status of the most expensive
Russian contemporary artist moved to Crookshanks . In 2011 -
m his painting "The Horse . Night "was sold at Phillips for 124,400 . U.S.
The most recent record - also on account Kryvolap . His painting "The Horse.
Evening "was sold June 28, 2013 at auction in London for Phillips
186,200 .
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The next level of Ukrainian contemporary art promises
Oleg bring Tistol . After the successful sale of his paintings , " Painting "
at auction in April 2013, management has selected one of the Phillips
it works for the evening sale in October. " And it is quite the
adult , there is exhibited most important and valuable , it is getting
Ukrainian author in the clip is very serious artists ", - explained
Tistol after it learned of his success.
However, in the global context of Ukrainian art always fit ,
experts say. " Art is born in the Ukraine , in any event ,
the former Soviet Union , trends often produces, and not
only corresponds to them - from Oleg Kulik and Arsene Savadov at dawn
90 to the group REP 10 years ago, " - says art critic and
Doroshenko Gryshchenko Clinic co-owner of Constantine Doroshenko .
" Some of the young artists deliberately create" export "
art, for example , a popular West socio- critical
Art " - adds Oksana Barshinova , Department Head
Art of XX - beginning of XXI century, the National Art Museum
Ukraine.
The rise in prices has attracted more and more investors and collectors :
" Ukrainian art market prices rose to a much larger number of
time since 1991, the Ukrainian stock market than from the same point -
says Michael Kuhar , publisher of art directory
"Modern Art of Ukraine Independence period : 100 names ." -
In Ukraine, in 1991 there were no modern artists who
would cost more than $ 100-300 for a job. In general, there was no
one name , whose work would cost more than a hundred dollars. Here we are
20 years later, we live in the same city in the same country , and we have
At least 10 artists that even his own brother for less than
25 thousand dollars , his work will not sell . "
collection Rules
In the global art market today there are two major trends in
collecting. The first trend : growing interest in
contemporary art. In part because that works
Old Masters and classical museum quality often already
are in museums and private collections . Find high-quality "old"
fabric for an adequate price every year more and more difficult . While
both the contemporary art market trends are constantly emerging ,
and the dynamics of price growth in this segment above.
The second trend in collecting - the purchase of works by artists
their country. "The Chinese collect Chinese art
British - the British , and only then - bright foreign "- results
Doroshenko example . This approach warms up prices on the first
the domestic market, and then draws attention to the works already
on the external .
So picture a particular author or school transformed into an object
investment. For example , paintings by Alexander Roytburd another 10-15
years ago you could buy for a few hundred dollars. today
the value of his major paintings exceeded one hundred thousand. not in the
least through auction sales , because the appearance of
works among the lots of Christie's, Sotheby's, Bonhams and Phillips - it
kind of quality mark .
In addition to sales at auction , experts advise collectors
pay attention to the exposure of major exhibitions like
Venice Biennale and Art Basel, as well as to museum collections ,
because they get work only artists who have already
wrote their names in the history of the world of art. Besides Kryvolap ,
Tistol and Roytburd , including local authors such already
are , for example , Arsene Savadov Pavel Makov , Basil Tsaholov ,
Alexander Gnilitskiy . Continue list novice collector
help gallery owners and art critics .
However, much more interesting for collectors to discover
young artists , says Oksana Barshinova . The risk of mistaken here
above, however, and more excitement . In addition, the price of the work is much lower
and they are growing faster than the distinguished masters . All the more so
landmarks still there - short-lists of prestigious competitions , for their
young artists in Ukraine is carried out more and more, as well as
prefabricated exhibitions , art festivals . Yes, and the names , which is
look , are also known . " From young I would recommend APL
315 , Nikita Shalennyi , Vladimir Kuznetsov , Hamlet Zinkovskaya -
Constantine advises Doroshenko . - And, of course , David Chichkan .
Anarchist activist , he wrote a little work , but they have become a real
open to criticism in the first place - the Russian , after
Exhibition " OUT : Dreams in reality ." And they were all sold out , "- . Adds art
critic.
Michael Kuhar and do think that it's a classic shape
investment portfolio of the work of contemporary artists: "No
today need to wonder what to buy. We are at the stage
market correction . Blue chips are known, they are not yet fully
regained their value , in fact - it is clear that
with the release of Ukrainian contemporary art at Sotheby's prices
will grow. In the top 10 famous names now can invest roughly
speaking as a share of Gazprom in 1993 . If successful purchase top-5 ,
for three or four years, you can double your investment. "
Although buying art solely for the sake of
investment still not worth it . Collection , primarily to
bring pleasure to the owner. Therefore, it is not
to compile your personal collection as a mandatory registry
authors. After all, the most interesting private collections - is always
reasonable balance between expert opinion and personal taste
owner .

Julia Kuprina
Journal of Money

simeon2010 26.11.2013 18:25

Would you have invested?

Кирилл Сызранский 26.11.2013 18:50

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Сообщение от Dogel (Сообщение 2753861)
Arsen Savadov

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Сообщение от Dogel (Сообщение 2753861)
Pavel Makov

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Сообщение от Dogel (Сообщение 2753861)
Oleg Tistol

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Сообщение от Dogel (Сообщение 2753861)
Anatoly Krivolap

Savadov[/URL],
Makov and
Tistol and
yesterday at Sotheby's.

Andriy78 27.11.2013 16:09

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Сообщение от Kirill
[/URL
Savadov,
Makov and
Tistol and
yesterday at Sotheby's.

Krivolap - here: http://www.sothebys.com/ru/search.ht...rds = kryvolap

Кирилл Сызранский 27.11.2013 17:28

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Сообщение от Andriy78 (Сообщение 2865551)

Yes, thank you, corrected.
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тандем 27.11.2013 19:58

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Сообщение от Dogel; 2753861"
In Ukraine, in 1991 there was no contemporary artists who
would cost more than $ 100-300 for the work . Generally there was no
one name , whose work would cost more than a hundred dollars. Here we
live 20 years later, in the same city in the same country , and we have
At least 10 artists that even his own brother for less than
25 thousand dollars , his work will not be sold ».

In '91 $ 100 . budget were three Ukrainian family of three , and it is only because the cheapness of basic foodstuffs and services zhkh.Lyudi were poor after the forfeiture of money-laundering crook Pavlova and devastation triple scoundrel Gorbachev. And then they did not care how many there are of " contemporary artists " . There was some respite after the introduction of hryvnia revival and beginning of the 2000s . But in 2007, everything went ashes and today we are talking about the survival or collapse.
 
Today, only a maximum of 5 %of Ukraine's population can afford to spend a painless 25 thousand dollars , but only half of one percent of the 5 agree "bury " this amount to unspecified number of years , to " profit " from the future sale of paintings fashionable modern Ukrainian representative contemporary art.
So for whom today Kuprina Julia , " but art is also versed in film , music, literature , theater, television, product design , fashion and a little restaurant business (!!)" ( http://www.capital.ua /author /kuprina-yuliya ) wrote an article this scanty ?
 
And yesterday and today (the truth is smaller scale ) , and a couple Pinchuk oligarchs (yet ..... ) play at Sotheby's in "blue chips" , the other "business" for the officials to launder gos.apparata " sawn " budget money or trying not to suffocate in the arms of banks , tax, cops , courts and other oprichnikov.Kakie much less investment in Chychkan & Co.
The overwhelming majority of citizens silently and stupidly " plow " on the toilet and waiting for the promised " pokraschennya " Yanukovych - Azarov.

Кирилл Сызранский 27.11.2013 20:03

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Сообщение от tandem (Сообщение 2865931)
People were poor after the forfeiture of money-laundering crook Pavlova

When Pavlov was only one "machination" - withdrawal from circulation and exchange of 50 - and 100-ruble notes in 1961 on a sample of 1991 of release notes.

spigo 27.11.2013 20:17

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Сообщение от simeon2010 (Сообщение 2864511)
Would you have invested?

Yes, there is such an artist, Matthew Weisberg.
His work is a long-term investment that will reap your children and grandchildren, and today's owners will be enough aesthetic dividends.

тандем 28.11.2013 11:14

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzran ; 2865941"
When Pavlov was only one " machination " - withdrawal from circulation and exchange of 50 - and 100 - ruble notes sample of 1961 for banknotes 1991 release .

And who froze deposits in the Savings Bank of the USSR ? ! Pushkin ? ?
According to government data , total deposits in the Savings Bank on June 20, 1991 was approximately 315.3 billion rubles in prices of the relevant period. In addition, on January 1, 1992 the amount of contributions to the organization of state insurance was estimated at 24.0 billion rubles , funds of the population in government securities - 342.2 million rubles. The total number of depositors of the Savings Bank was estimated at 40 million people.
People earned the trust of t r y d o m money to insure children to adulthood , and this scum and Stavropol zhopomordaya labeled ALL selected . Read more - " young reformers " hatched from eggs partkomovzkih - district committee cranked up even more ambitious in their cynicism operation with vouchers that allowed their masters , for nothing to seize everything created several generations of hard labor . Yes it is necessary for such a rip off skin alive , and you have made them heroes , and rejoice that managed to catch the dust from the master's table .
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Maybe someone would think that this post is not about any temu.No investment value in the tens, hundreds of thousands of dollars in the "contemporary art" can be discussed if the education for the overwhelming mass of people who are forced to live and not survive and feel every minute humiliation and poverty disenfranchised , is on the brink . Feast during the Plague looks all this secondary in nature and completely pointless thin - tusnya advertised experts in the restaurant business with art history diplomom.Samoe terrible that these thin - clowns who have some dollars and euros in the head , associate himself with artists of the sixties , humiliating them and their work .

Grigory 28.11.2013 11:58

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Сообщение от tandem ; 2866591"
amount of deposits in the Savings Bank on June 20, 1991 was approximately 315.3 billion rubles

If you have indicated in your profile truthful information , then you have 15 in 91 years. You lay a lot of money in the savings bank ?

And if you will call zhopomordoy filth ? ? ?

You would think that they were doing all this had nothing to do . This is all done on the economic despair , the country's budget was empty. And emptied it not Gorbachev , and the price of oil and sucked from the finger economic theory , the so-called " socialist economy " ...

Кирилл Сызранский 28.11.2013 12:29

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Сообщение от tandem ; 2866591"
People earned the trust of t r y d o m money to insure children to adulthood , and this scum zhopomordaya Stavropol labeled and selected ALL .

People get paid , but the money is not , in principle, could spend - they simply had nothing to buy. As a result, the so-called internally formed savings - 2/3 of the total amount of savings. On the other hand , kopilsya deficit - a constant shortage of consumer goods compared with those obtained by people with money all wanted cars and VCRs, and stores could buy winter polta gray drape and blouse with astrakhan collar . <! - ~ 7 ~ ->
And if at the moment the prices of consumer goods would free from state control , they had to grow sharply to balance these deficits potrebtovarov .
In fact, in the savings bank of the population were virtual money writing in these books. Now out of our time is difficult to imagine it , but then still keeping them for decades in the savings bank ("delay" <! - ~ 1 ~ -> what , I wonder? zhiz the second ? but no life -"draft" and there is no life " to white ", alas ) or living under the mattress - they are not just what was spent .
Well, speculators buy jeans for 200 rubles , well hit the road in Sochi , absent from any part of there " Caucasus village " ... And ?

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Сообщение от Grigory; 2866721"
and emptied it not Gorbachev , and the price of oil and sucked from the finger economic theory , the so-called " socialist economy " ...

In the 70 - 80s the entire resources of the Soviet economy left to maintain parity in the " Cold War " : atomic and hydrogen bombs , missiles , rockets , missiles , nuclear submarines , bombers and hundreds of thousands of tanks .
And the wages paid , and how - it's certainly ... <! - ~ 9 ~ ->

It is better to spend on something " earned t r y d o m the money " rather than succumbing to the call " to keep money in savings banks " , they lose.
No money , by the way , these savings banks bear did not make themselves every month my legs were carrying these savings on themselves and their children unhappy dozens .

store money in a savings bank - be in a lump suckers !

тандем 28.11.2013 13:22

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Сообщение от Grigory; 2866721"
If you have indicated in your profile truthful information , then you have 15 in 91 years. You lay a lot of money in the savings bank ?

And if you will call zhopomordoy filth ? ? ?

You would think that they were doing all this had nothing to do . This is all done on the economic despair , the country's budget was empty. And emptied it not Gorbachev , and the price of oil and sucked from the finger economic theory , the so-called " socialist economy " ...

Once you touched the personal , the answer - 15 years of infancy and not a normal person should already understand what is happening around , especially if what is happening directly concerns him and his blizkih.Tak so happened that my father's entire salary came at the expense of my mother Sberbank , as part of the currency at the expense of Vnesheconombank SSSR.Mat seriously ill and accounts were frozen this time decrees so cute you figures. Had to sell the apartment , and I go to school instead rabotu.Iz all the money today returned 1,000 hryvnia , and with less costs of entering the legacy 350 hryvnia ( $ 40 ) . Money account Vnesheconombank corny assigned the new Russian government . Wanted to call the act differently, as there is actually , but decided to be correct and not watered offend your ears epithets only to a small extent characterizing figures inscribed in golden page in the modern history of domestic treachery and fraud.
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Сообщение от Cyril Syzran ; 2866761"
Money store in a savings bank - be in a lump suckers !

Dear Cyril Syzransky, you enter into a controversy thankless task , especially since I have no doubt that you were not then and lohom segodya not promah.Da ... With so much happiness and freedom! Just do not eat at night raw tomato ( C)

Кирилл Сызранский 28.11.2013 14:04

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Сообщение от tandem ; 2866871"
that you were not thenlohom

In 1979, my parents were leaving for a couple of years to Kamchatka and father took me to the savings bank , there was opened in my name and gave me a bill , or ten, or 20 rubles to it when I put them on the book and explained , showed how to do it - passbook that was just in case , so I know how to lay down - shoot .
The money had lain there for three months and at one another during the hungry student I thought about them , pulled into the savings bank (which to this day is also there ) and this money gladly took . <! - ~ 1 ~ ->

And there lay in storage a few 3%bond loan, the same nominal value of 20 rubles each . I like goof last checked even draws in the table, the newspaper "Izvestia" specially bought , watched , checked , fell out whether any winning my room .
While some of his friends have not seen it and laughed at me , explaining available which negligible probability of winning there on these bonds .
But I was already a big army passed, student literacy development, and the fact that in the human there believed, as well - the State !

Grigory 28.11.2013 15:21

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Сообщение от tandem ; 2866871"
It just so happened that the entire salary of my father came to my mother's account in the Savings Bank , and part of the currency at the expense of Vnesheconombank of the USSR

So you lived well , you had a " part of the currency " ...
And my sn publishing list on passbook savings bank in the nearest . And my savings account as a salary (and checkbooks all employees ) is not frozen you hated figures ...
Yes , I admit, it was hard to even sucks ...
But if not for those measures would have been worse ...

Кирилл Сызранский 28.11.2013 15:48

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Сообщение от tandem ; 2866871"
as part of the currency at the expense of Vnesheconombank of the USSR .

Цитата:

Сообщение от Grigory; 2867011"
So you lived well , you had a " part of the currency " ...

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During his stay abroad part of their salaries in foreign currency abroad are voluntary (but not more than 60%), transfer to an account at Vnesheconombank and return to the USSR get pre ordered sum in the form of certificates (later - checks) .
A Cheque in "Birches " ... <! - ~ 1 ~ ->
However, in early 1988, the system stores Vneshposyltorg "Birch" was abolished in 1993 and checking accounts abroad are Vnesheconombank were converted into hard currency ( hard currency ) .


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