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Glasha 07.08.2013 16:30

Kraudfanding and Garry Bardin.
 
(Text "talked a" our posts, a business woman. I - joined)

Kraudfanding (born srowdfunding, in a literal translation of the national funding) (in the transcription of the word sounds horrible for me so better kolfinproekt - the collective financing of the project) - a comparatively new.
It is successfully used to raise funds for the launch of a new music album, for setting the play or film shoot, the embodiment of the design project, the creation of computer games, publications, books, etc.
Studies show that most of the money collected is just cultural and charitable projects.

Why do you need an artist?
It can raise the funds for the exhibition, or the release of an album of his work.
How does it work?
The artist takes a little video (you can own, now all the equipment is complete and high resolution is required for the Internet) and deliberately offering to exchange money for the shares in which role can serve a variety of things with an increase in the amount of: thank you, thank you, excursion the workshop, a private screening at the show, an autographed album and best wishes, thanks to the first page of the catalog, print, painting, and other options.
Benefits?
Will not be obliged to some sponsor (or more, which is rare, sponsors jealous usually <! - ~ 1 ~ ->) And he does not will be required to numerous shareholders, they bought the stock and get what they bought, in If fully fund the project, that is, they will gather at least once designated amount. If you do not collect the amount, it means it's not very interesting to the audience and is a good thing that the money did not have to spend. And in plus free advertising - about the artist learned new people, active and progressive.
(How to tell about yourself and what to offer and how to share social networks to promote the project - that is another story.)
Why do people need?
They want not just to choose from ready, and by the help to the emergence of what they like. Every good to know that without it would not have happened, right? <! - ~ 1 ~ -> And people are willing to pay for it. American examples have multi-million dollar amount, and we already have, however denominated, but millionnery <! - ~ 1 ~ -> - for example site Colta (former team OpenSpace) collects the required budget for the second time, the cartoon " Masjanja "Oleg Kuvaeva now removed if wanting to see him pay the required amount.

Animation Garry Bardin.
My favorite director Garry Bardin, I hope, will be able to help their fans dosnyat third of the new cartoon. Awful want to see another cool cartoon, and for this pleasure does not mind paying. And if it is a pity to pay a lot for a reason, then instead offer as stocks and drawings of his storyboards to the "ugly duckling" and the Dolls of its cartoons, and excursions with Harry Jakovlevichem the studio. And for a particularly generous - full with thanks in the credits.
 Imagine yourself as if it had happened many years ago, and "Bracken" or "bang-bang, oh-oh-oh!" Or "flying ship" or "GREY WOLF END RED RIDING HOOD" would not have appeared if do not you? Huh? You can help masterpiece appear not greedy and do not be lazy, and can be proud of yourself and tell the grandkids!

Seriy 07.08.2013 20:52

Glasha, for the artist , in the sense of the painter, you described the scheme looks strange , not to say , questionable. Sign autographs to raise money for painting the picture ? and what are the problems ? pencil - paper and we can sell. If you really need the money, for a small sum. Same with the exhibits.
Bardin , Tarkovsky , Norshtejn - all funded by the state , te their name , they created using their talent and money of the state.

Кирилл Сызранский 07.08.2013 21:33

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Сообщение от Seriy (Сообщение 2705481)
Bardin, Tarkovsky, Norshtejn - all funded by the state, te their name, they created using their talent and money of the state.

Therefore Tarkovsky emigrated from this country?

And so Nornshteyn his "Overcoat" takes the fourth decade?

natalia-v 07.08.2013 21:50

Glasha,

Thank you , great post !

This is a very cool and positive - I participated in the " Masyanya " on www.planeta.ru, I liked it , and the " Masjanju " collected 4 times more than was necessary . Even now there will be 4 new series, and maybe more .
I know that Garry Bardin was looking for money for his cartoon , and all were denied , he even appealed to Prokhorov and was refused . And on the " Planet " gathered 70 percent , here ! And Mothers with children who went to him for the tour, were insanely happy and some people went to the second round <! - ~ 1 ~ ->

fross 07.08.2013 22:49

Thank Glasha
And then I had already decided that the forum is now solely engaged in squabbles and gossip . I do not imagine it? <! - ~ 1 ~ ->
But Bardeen cartoons is the real art , true . But from the time elapsed since the publication of your account is not replenished or the ruble. So, all one hundred people who read your post , and decided not to give up , even from 300 rubles . Great art lovers ! <! - ~ 4 ~ ->

Кирилл Сызранский 07.08.2013 23:07

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So, all one hundred people who read your post , and decided not to give up , even from 300 rubles .

Well , not everyone can through a computer in the first hour of the night to make remittances .
I, for example , even a card is not present , and the accounts of the banks I use only for transfers. <! - ~ 1 ~ ->

Glasha 07.08.2013 23:09

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And Mothers with children who went to him for the tour, were insanely happy and some people went to the second round

natalia-v, and you - for the good news , because I know people who have just bought for friends and kids these excursions , but never for a moment and did not doubt that there are very interesting.
And what to get a character from the movie Harry Bardin ? Remember nedavnishny auction, which exhibited Cheburashka and Gena ...

fross, I hope that will see and those who need <! - ~ 1 ~ ->

natalia-v 07.08.2013 23:42

Glasha,


yes its dolls from the cartoons - it's all cool <! - ~ 1 ~ ->

And as I know - the whole team planeta.ru a very "sick" for the project Garry Bardin.

All young people out there who grew up on his cartoons.

And came up with "Planet" Max Litmus, bassist B-2, and his friend Theodore Murachkovsky.

Кирилл Сызранский 08.08.2013 00:18

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Max Litmus

Max Litmus - a pseudonym, he really Maxim Andryushchenko.
<! - ~ 1 ~ ->

natalia-v 08.08.2013 00:31

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Max Litmus - a pseudonym, he really Maxim Andryushchenko.
<! - ~ 1 ~ ->


Well, yes, I know <! - ~ 1 ~ ->

Glasha 08.08.2013 14:17

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Сообщение от Seriy; 2705481"
for the artist, in the sense of the painter, you described the scheme looks strange , not to say , questionable.

Seriy, in the sense of an artist painter - creative ideas are creative strife.
And the artist in the sense of the fine - the creator of the creator of discord .
Who knows , maybe you will want to create a school Severodvinsk or Aboriginal painting ?
For the artist, in a broader sense creator - there is generally a large field .

Another thing entice you, it will interest someone else besides you.
I'd love to read, for example , about the happy stories brought to life design projects .
That natalia-v successful project O.Kuvaeva evidence .
 Works right?
The idea is important . That will entice and encourage participation .

Кирилл Сызранский 08.08.2013 14:37

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Сообщение от Glasha (Сообщение 2706951)
That natalia-v successful project O.Kuvaeva evidence.

Yes, this is a good example - he once "have thrown" more than was necessary, more than he asked for and the author immediately NEXT series charted.

natalia-v 14.08.2013 01:03

Directed P.Bardin urged his colleagues not to go cap in hand to V.Medinskomu

Son of the famous animator Garry Bardin director Pavel Bardin urged fellow filmmakers did not seek the help of the Minister of Culture Vladimir Medina, not to be humiliated. On his Facebook page with the director told the story of his father's appeal to the Minister.

Bardin, Sr. asked the Ministry of Culture of prolongation of the agreement on government support as well as due to illness did not have time to finish the work on time. Twice a written request to V.Medinskomu, G.Bardin received the answer: his statement was a resolution "on the same basis."

Now the animator must pay a penalty of 200 thousand rubles. of the money collected through the site planeta.ru to complete work on a new animated film, added P.Bardin.

On the collection of funds, it was announced in late May 2013. Directed by collecting money for the third episode of the new animated film "Three tunes."

At the end of the message P.Bardin addressed to artists: "Colleagues filmmakers, do not write letters, do not go cap in hand - you do not deserve this humiliation."

 http://top.rbc.ru/society/14/08/2013/870046.shtml

natalia-v 15.08.2013 18:35

Good news from www.planeta.ru: about the fate of the project Garry Bardin.

Portal "Planeta.ru" to pay the penalty for Garry Bardin

Echo of Moscow to St. Petersburg
Portal "Planeta.ru" to pay the penalty for Garry Bardin
Portal said that the owners will add to a project Garry Bardin 200,000 rubles, so that he could pay a fine of Culture, Fontanka reported. Recall that Garri Bardin was to hand over the film "Three Melodies" in June of this year, but due to illness, asked the Ministry of Culture to roll over time.


Lenta.ru
Garry Bardin per day listed 400 thousand rubles
The funds were collected using kraundfandingovogo resource Planeta.ru, where Garry Bardin collecting money for the creation of a new cartoon called "Three Melodies".


RIA Novosti
Garry Bardin told about the fine from the Ministry of Culture to 200 thousand rubles
The Ministry of Culture of the Russian Federation fined animated film directed by Garry Bardin in the amount of "about 200 thousand rubles," the term for the delay production of animated film "Three Melodies",
director told RIA Novosti.

So it has already collected nearly 100 percent of the required amount.
'm Sure that our great forum users did not remain indifferent!! <! - ~ 1 ~ -> <! - ~ 1 ~ -> <! - ~ 1 ~ ->

Seriy 15.08.2013 19:43

And in the case of Bardeen, and in the case of Kuvaeva people simply convert his popularity to raise money on very favorable terms , any liability to the givers of money. I think the givers of money quickly will realize this and will give money to certain conditions , as it usually happens in the world .
 Actually , David Bowie once did it on a larger scale and more delicately - placed shares for capital in the form of their albums . It is true all the shares of one fund and bought a widely available they were out.
 The most beautiful idea kraudfandinga , IMHO, - collecting money to create glowing in the night plants by genetic engineering. All who pass will receive seed money .


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