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Dogel 14.05.2013 10:15

Alexey Ananiev: Investing in art would benefit only the financiers
 
One of the owners of "PSB" Alexey Ananiev is known not only as a businessman but also as a great philanthropist. A year ago, he founded the Institute of Russian realist art dealing with the research and a description of this trend in painting. And they assembled a collection consists of about 5,000 jobs. On why the Russian realistic art almost not found in museums, as well as the fact that investment in the arts in general would benefit only the financiers, and collect with the hope of further profit should carefully Ananias told the RIA Novosti Maria Ganiyants.

- Recently, banks and other financial institutions offer a variety of investment programs related to the arts. How profitable to invest in art?

- Complicated question. The art market is very different from the stock market. Practically impossible to analyze the dynamics of sales. It's still not buying the "blue chips". Works of art in this sense - the goods illiquid.

There is one caveat - when they begin to deal with the idea of ​​gathering further profitable sales, the majority of the collection does not have a face. And it is a huge disadvantage. In this sense, much more valuable when the person in the congregation felt the collector when it is clear that it invested not only money but also time and effort, and taste, and knowledge.

If we evaluate the market Russian realist art, which I more or less know that even economic crises do not really affect the pricing. During the crisis, the market appears more worthy works, but at this price still will not fall.

- And other tools, such as art mutual funds, which began to appear in our country, as far as can be profitable investor or shareholder?

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- I can not carry themselves as supporters of this type of investment. As a rule, these stories earns only operator who receives fee income and does not take any risks.

There are other business structures related to art. For example, a collector is interested in acquiring some things, but can not afford at the moment. The bank may bail picture to give credit or take a piece of art on bail. But this kind of banking - non-mass product, and develop it as a separate great direction makes no sense.

- What do you think about banking art collection?

- Collection at the bank - it's not bad. However, many of the banks from 2007, after the crisis began to part with their collections, and often with a large profit. A couple of years ago, "Commerzbank" sold sculpture "Walking Man" by Alberto Giacometti for about $ 60 million. Do not always know where to go artwork from the banks. For example, it is very interesting that happened with a wonderful collection of "Inkom".

- On what basis you are building your collection? How it works and what it is measured?

- Now in the collection of slightly more than 5,000 works of Russian realists of the late XIX - early twenty-first centuries, and in the permanent exhibition of the Institute of around 450 jobs. The cost of the meeting, I do not open, the more selling while it is not going to fund and create art too.

I'm primarily guided by personal taste. I try to get direct access to the artists or to the heirs. I am the most significant works of an author. For example, I have one of the most representative collections of Helium Mikhailovich Korzheva. There are high-quality works of Vladimir Stozharova, Alexei Grits, George and Michael Kugach, a good selection of works by Dmitry Zhilinskis, a series of works of the brothers Sergei and Alexei Tkachev and others. There are some works of the XIX century - paintings Klodta Nicholas, Nicholas Krymova, Igor Grabar, Peter Petrovicheva, Nikolai Bogdanov-Belsky.

- You founded the Institute of Russian realist art, which, in fact, has become a place where your collection is exhibited. But the word "institution" means something more than just a show?

- Frankly, the long-term development strategy initially I did not have. First, just wanted to hang pictures on the walls, then the right to organize exhibitions, art history to conduct the work. Following the idea of ​​having art classes, lectures on realistic art, decided to publish quality books and catalogs. Today, we are trying to integrate into a cultural museum space: take part in the programs of the Department of Culture of Moscow, working with Russian museum, with the union of "Arena." In April, an art project run lunch, designed for "white-collar" from the nearby offices - free once a day at lunchtime lecture will take place on art, a kind of cultural injection.

Partly in the area of ​​promotion of realism in art direction as we take over the functions of the state. Recently, the Russian state-owned museums have stopped buying realist art, and it allowed me to create my collection. But as the museum stopped buying realists, then they have ceased to conduct a full-scale research and exhibit representatives of this trend. In the Tretyakov Gallery on the Crimean shaft you hardly meet artists of this trend, there are only four rooms that hang several pictures Stozharova, reservoir and Zhilinskis. This is not enough.

- And what is involved in the decline of interest in realism in our country?

- This is a pendulum effect. Temporary denial of realism in Russia was associated with a fracture of the socio-economic structure. All that was associated with the former regime, had to be torn away. This happened not only in art but also in literature and cinema. You had time to emotionally people could rest. Now just comes a time when interest in the Russian realism returned. Look posters of cultural events to see this, read what they write art criticism. Today we have an opportunity to separate the wheat from the chaff separated from the present agitprop art.

And everywhere there is now a great interest in realism. Remember a couple of years ago, what a lovely exhibition of Socialist Realism were held in Rome and what they have had tremendous success. A solo exhibition of Alexander Deineki in the capital of Italy visited 800,000 people.

There is a good collection of Russian realists and abroad, the most famous - TMORA, Museum of Russian Art in Minneapolis in the U.S., which has organized Ray Johnson. British auction houses are showing serious interest in a joint exhibition projects. The plans of the Institute - to promote Russian realist art in Europe and do joint projects with museums of France, Austria, Germany.

From what will happen directly at the Institute in the near future - the exhibition "Watercolors Alexei Shmarinov" which will open on April 4, the birthday of the artist, which is well-known in Russia and abroad. This exhibition will help us to introduce our audience to the graphics department. We have a pretty serious plans and the exhibition season 2013-2014, and we very soon they will voice.
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Кирилл Сызранский 14.05.2013 13:10

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For example , it is very interesting that happened with a wonderful collection of " Inkom ".
Well , the banker , making art about the collection Inkombanka should know , that b . the whole story and the sale of the collection Inkombanka ) has been recently and b ) is well known , because everything is documented and the entire sale was carried out in public:
In December 2001, the bankruptcy trustee Inkombanka entered into an agreement with the auction house " Gelos " the sale of the collection. Selecting " Gelos " was simple: a collection can not be exported abroad because of the examination after it was deemed extremely important and actually acquired the status of national treasure.
And in Russia, another auction house , except for " Gelos " just was not there.

artcol 15.05.2013 13:12

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Сообщение от Dogel (Сообщение 2596921)

- Now in the collection of slightly more than 5,000 works of Russian realists of the late XIX - early twenty-first centuries, and in the permanent exhibition of the Institute of around 450 jobs.

The third meeting of the realists of this size.

Владимир Владимирович 15.05.2013 13:21

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Сообщение от artcol (Сообщение 2599301)
This is the third meeting of the realists of this size.

And that is good.
Let them buy.
Only now on the market in the near future this work will fall by only one, sad scenario.
A museums and so zabity.Kachestvennyh works in the sale is getting smaller.
While on the subject few people think.

artcol 15.05.2013 13:30

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Сообщение от Vladimir Vladimirovich (Сообщение 2599331)
Quality work in the sale is getting smaller.
While on the subject, few thought.

What is there to think about?

Владимир Владимирович 15.05.2013 13:38

Museums would be allowed to sell some of the assets.
Wrote, and most ridiculous.
It is hardly possible.

artcol 15.05.2013 13:54

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Сообщение от Vladimir Vladimirovich (Сообщение 2599401)
It is unlikely that this is possible.

And you know why.

Владимир Владимирович 15.05.2013 14:02

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Сообщение от artcol (Сообщение 2599451)
you know why.

Yeah.
You can even export CC permit.
But it's all fantastic stories.
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Кирилл Сызранский 15.05.2013 14:04

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Сообщение от Vladimir Vladimirovich, 2599491
You can even export CC permit.

Removal of KC and so allowed.
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K-Maler 15.05.2013 14:17

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Сообщение от Vladimir Vladimirovich , 2599331 "
A museums and so clogged .

Museums and foundations must be slaughtered . They - the material for the museum , publications , exhibitions and conferences. Or do you think that the museum should only own topics. that hangs on the walls ? It would be too poor museum, something like " appartment " ...

Владимир Владимирович 15.05.2013 14:18

Yes, but only crooked like that.
As a multi-national.
Do not say anything about Ukraine.
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Кирилл Сызранский 15.05.2013 14:20

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Сообщение от Vladimir Vladimirovich, 2599551
Yes, but only as something askew.

Not crooked and straight.

You're just not in the subject, as always.
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artcol 15.05.2013 14:46

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky (Сообщение 2599501)
removal of KC and so allowed.
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How long?
And then I h-is not up to date.

Dogel 23.12.2013 16:17

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Cannes Alexander talks about the exhibition " Soviet Sport " in the auction house Sotheby's
Interview Ananev , employees Auction on the huge potential of art sots.perioda .
http://www.bbc.co.uk/russian/multime..._art_kan.shtml
oOCHEN interesting

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On Thursday, the London branch of the auction house Sotheby's exhibition " Soviet art . Soviet Sport »(Soviet Art. Soviet Sport). The exposition comprises four dozen paintings and sculptures, combined sports-themed , from the collection of the Institute of Russian realist art and private collections. On the show, in particular , the works of Alexander Deineki , Victor Popkov , Michael Izotov Kutilina Vladimir , Olga Vaulino . The basis of the exhibition was the collection Ananeva .

"You know , I'm interested in this period of life , because I grew up in this period , themselves do not separate from it . A collection as such began to emerge in the early 2000s when I first began to get work. I sincerely believe that this is an art , because it's not superficial things , not propaganda , not the socialist realism , which we ate in the Soviet years . Most of the artists that have been successful in Soviet times , mainly focused on the present art. Some of them , of course, doing something for sale, for the regime, and many do not even do, because being publicly recognized , they are not in any way alter themselves , "- said in an interview with RIA Ananev News .

Collector admitted that collecting work became increasingly aware that the Soviet realism - a continuation of the realistic traditions of the XIX century, presented Surikov , Repin , Levitan , Savrasov and Perov .

"Artistic method that has been implemented and is formed by them , went to the Soviet art , of course , being transformed , of course, finding some new forms , but without changing ourselves - this is very important ", - explained Ananev .

professional choice

The main criterion for selection of paintings for Ananeva - standard " like-dislike ", but with significant reservations . " If you dive and try to analyze why something like and do not like something , you know, that thing must necessarily be sincere . Then , it should be professionally well done - there should be no blunders . eventually, I myself more and more work can appreciate yourself. With experts I consult primarily for understanding price. Though I collect , but am not daily in the market, but there are people for whom it is a profession , and I have to be consulted . But in terms of understanding the value of work , in terms of painting I often do not have to consult - and hand packed , on the one hand and on the other , I time he graduated from art school , so that the base , which has been laid on it and developed it all "- said the businessman .

Ananev admitted that he began to collect for themselves , eventually he realized that loses much of what his congregation do not see other people .

"I started to collect for themselves. But three factors have a decisive impact . First, the possibility of my house quickly ceased to allow the collection to expand . And had to make a choice: either to abort or continue to collect. Second, many of which I liked, in its physical format did not fit within the parameters of the home collection . So I started to collect already referring to the museum perspective, what eventually happened Institute . Finally , many artists are willing to give their best landmark works only if their exposure in the public space . They are not ready to sell them just in a private collection , "- said Ananev .

" The sum of these factors led me to believe that it must be some kind of public space , and that resulted in the Institute . And in the process of collecting , until I built the house and did not prepare the entire infrastructure , I could only look at work in the store. But looking at the work in the store , you know how much you lose what you can not post these jobs and give people the opportunity to see them , too, "- confessed collector.

Pros and cons of market growth

According Ananeva if a few years ago about counterfeit works of Soviet realist could not walk and talk , but now there are fakes .

"When I started collecting , one of the key factors was that there was no fakes. Unfortunately, there are fakes - it works by artists of the period , "- said on.On added that prices have been rising steadily , he began to gather not at the lowest level . " The lowest level was in the early 1990s . In 2000 - x prices were already "adult" . Now you see what happens at auction go on top of a very, very high prices , "- said Ananev.Odnim of the most expensive acquisitions it was" Sportswoman tied ribbon "Alexander Deineki . It cost more than $ 900 thousand . This picture is presented now on exhibition in London . In early February, an exhibition in expanded form can be viewed in Moscow's GUM , and then - at the Museum of the Institute of Russian realist art .

kron 20.01.2014 20:58

Was recently <Anananevke> - like ...
 
Visited the same IRRI , created by the famous banker Anan'ev .
Well, businessman Respect for the collection , for spacious rooms , for taking care of the spiritual in a time when the best buy ipad or " plasma " than painting . Lighting in some places a little pumped up , not in terms of brightness , but in the sense orientation : had to turn, look angle inspection, not to " otblikivalo ."
In general - arhipolozhitelnoe experience . Wandered hour and a half . Forces on the third floor, which exhibited the most significant ( significant ?) Work is not enough.
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