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operator 04.03.2009 13:18

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Dear forum users!

Help please to attribute a very rare full (10 works) a series of drawings by Alexander Degas to the drama. I very much want to find out the name of this production.

Degas-talented successor of the school Bakst and Goncharova was born in St. Petersburg March 16, 1890 and during the revolution had fought in the White Army in the gene. Denikin. He emigrated first to Switzerland and then to Italy. During the communists - of course was taboo. Yes, probably like everyone who was against the authority of councils.

I would be grateful for your substantive comments.:)

The sites for your attention to find a few links (below).

http://digilander.libero.it/trombeal...vari/degai.htm

http://www.collezioni-f.it/ascari/a_carabinieri.html

http://www.carabinieri.it/Internet/A...ascicolo 2.htm

http://www.samisdat.com/5/23/523f-avr.htm Alexander Degas number 14 in the list of members of the Masonic lodge "Aurora" in Paris in the 30s.

Thank you for your attention

I would be grateful for your substantive comments.

Кирилл Сызранский 04.03.2009 15:29

operator, looked at the inscriptions on the sheets and the first thing that came to mind, costumes for the opera in LA. Beethoven's "Fidelio" on the play, JN Buyi "Leonore, or Conjugal Love.
Try searching in this direction. But it certainly is not ballet. :)

operator 04.03.2009 16:40

Thank you,

Looking for the opera in LA. Beethoven's "Fidelio" on the play, JN Buyi "Leonore, or Conjugal Love.

You know Cyril, throughout the full list of actors from this opera, I found only two (2) matches Floristan and Fidel:

The first performance (under the name "Leonora") on November 20, 1805. Vienna. After considerable processing resumed in the new edition of 22 May 1814.

Characters:
Florestan - tenor
Leonora, his wife, hiding
under the guise of young Fidelio - soprano
Don Fernando, minister - bass or baritone
Doi Pizarro, head of the prison - baritone
Rocco, the prison warden - bass
Marceline, his daughter - soprano
Jacquinot, a prison keeper - tenor
The prisoners, officers, soldiers, guards, people. The action takes place in Spain.


But Degaya I do not find in the lists of artists! It is unfair like that! And what is your opinion on these works?

Сима 04.03.2009 16:53

Operator, your case was complicated, and the answer I did not prepare you. But the Spanish inscription "corpo de baile" was removed from Italy and led to Argentina, GDA your hero in 1955, was active in the theater.
But still can not help but notice that his schedule had nothing to do with Bakst and Goncharova. Do not offend the classics. Carabinieri and the Ethiopians he succeeded better, completely in the tradition of the nineteenth century. Very archaic artist. I think in the theater was appreciated as retrospektivista. By the way, and worked in the cinema.

Кирилл Сызранский 04.03.2009 16:59

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Сообщение от operator (Сообщение 249156)
And what is your opinion on these works?

P Seema agrees ...

danvik 04.03.2009 16:59

Work horoshie.No in my opinion the signature on your work differs from those that are on these sites you.

наследник 04.03.2009 17:36

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Сообщение от operator (Сообщение 249156)
But Degaya I do not find in the lists of artists! It is unfair like that! And what is your opinion on these works?

Excuse me, in the productions of what year Did you not find Degaya?

And, having quite a lot of work, as you explained by differences in the signature?

Сима 04.03.2009 17:58

Cyril Syzransky, how can one not ballet, when "corpo de baile"? (You are me. Of course, remind Walpurgis Night. - Op. Persidok Faust or dance.) We can agree on the operetta. But it seems strange that the lady singing in the drawers, it's still a stylized ballet costume. While not guess that it will not have all the answers. The costumes of different decades, with an eye to the tradition of the history of theatrical costume. Judging by the Ethiopians and the carabinieri, he knew the history of costume, it was his direct line of profession. And the history of theatrical costume, too - it is clear that Kyarina back to Bakst (not in the sense of schools and quality).
Operator, revealed an old man born in 1923 Argentina, who studied with Alejandro Degai, but the letter to him is not gone, probably already dead, but it would be told everything.

dedulya37 04.03.2009 17:59

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Сообщение от heir (Сообщение 249266)
And, having quite a lot of work, as you explained by differences in the signature?

... and why search engine e-Bay, whose logo is on the drawings, it can not find this author?

Кирилл Сызранский 04.03.2009 18:02

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Сообщение от Sima (Сообщение 249326)
We can agree on the operetta

And just-in Offenbach, it seems, there's something like this ... :)
Seema, I confess, did not carefully looking at, not really, secretly tell you hooked ... : cool:

LCR 04.03.2009 18:24

This is all the characters from the Commedia dell'arte - (in Schumann's Carnaval is Kyarina, Eusebius and Florestan, though others not). Ethiopians and karabintera from the same opera - or Operetta:)
Then it is logical and mention the corps de ballet - there almost always been ballet interludes.

Сима 04.03.2009 19:12

LCR, as all simple! And no Argentine do not need. Just in this set are not all the costumes for the Carnival. But there Kiarina, Estrella, Butterfly (Ballerina in yellow with spots), Evseby, Florestan, Pantalone, poet - a man in blue with a book, and most importantly, the philistines - 2 Filistei. Probably not only the "corpo de baile", but everything else in the Spanish version. But I stopped halfway and too lazy to check on the libretto, although Kyarinoy was clear immediately. Laziness-mother. And you - bravo! Operator must be satisfied - less than a day. Well really where he should seek.

operator 05.03.2009 12:45

Thank LCR!
 
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Сообщение от LCR (Сообщение 249426)
This is all the characters from the Commedia dell'arte - (in Schumann's Carnaval is Kyarina, Eusebius and Florestan, though others not). Ethiopians and karabintera from the same opera - or Operetta:)
Then it is logical and mention the corps de ballet - there almost always been ballet interludes.

Dear Guru LCR! Less than a day, but you could make an exact diagnosis. Thank you very much!:) And I'm already in Bahrusheva went - spent a decent time that would establish this title.

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Сообщение от Sim (Сообщение 249456)
Just in this set are not all the costumes for the Carnival. But there Kiarina, Estrella, Butterfly (Ballerina in yellow with spots), Evseby, Florestan, Pantalone, poet - a man in blue with a book, and most importantly, the philistines - 2 Filistei. Probably not only the "corpo de baile", but everything else in the Spanish version.

Dear Seema, Thank you for the active development of a substantive topic.:)
And about Argentina you correctly stated above, this work became an American Dr. Frid in Buenos Iris from the heirs Degaya 12 years ago, and I, respectively, recently had.

Кирилл Сызранский 05.03.2009 13:07

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Сообщение от operator (Сообщение 250276)
this work has acquired an American Dr. Frid in Buenos Iris from the heirs Degaya 12 years ago, and I, respectively, recently had.

Why so far to go.
Here at the forum are great theatrical sketches Volkova sell, lovely sight!
http://forum.artinvestment.ru/showthread.php?t=18825

operator 05.03.2009 14:16

price statistics Volkov
 
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Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky (Сообщение 250336)
Why so far to go.
Here at the forum are great theatrical sketches Volkova sell, lovely sight!
http://forum.artinvestment.ru/showthread.php?t=18825

By Degas, a priority for me, when making purchasing decisions, and there was beauty and harmony of the work themselves, and the name and investment attraction was secondary. Although very much want, that would Degaya remembered in the historical homeland.
Volkov mid-40s is another issue, but certainly interesting. Feels there is the breath of the country after the war and its characters. How you?
But what would understand how it is always interesting as the saying is "How much is the fish?":)
Is there some sort of sales statistics and what is your opinion - what now stands schedule Volkova? And how much will it cost Degas?


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