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uriart 23.04.2013 21:19

Bogolyubov?
 
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Again want to cheat buyers.

Is the picture painted by Bogolyubov?

Share your views.

Thank you.

Yago I 23.04.2013 21:43

ne bogoluboff
 
one can see that the picture is sold at auction.
a sticker on a stretcher "Export", says that she is in the country of temporary importation!
That is especially dragged her from hell, for sale!

U_Z 24.04.2013 02:14

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Сообщение от uriart (Сообщение 2569531)
Share opinions.


The bad photos.
Signature of the dry, but perky written.
Very well could be.

uriart 24.04.2013 06:17

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U_Z, and the second is my query about the photos sent as bad.

I compared with the works of hierarchy - the difference is striking.

My opinion - an old copy of the newly signed.

Anyone interested, I can send photos in Large-mail.

тандем 24.04.2013 07:27

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one can see that the picture is sold at auction . a sticker on a stretcher "Export", says that she is in the country of temporary importation ! That is especially dragged her from hell , for sale !

So for this auction , and there , that " dragged back from hell , for sale ! "
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on my second request sent photos about as bad .
I compared with the works of hierarchy - the difference is striking .
My opinion - an old copy of the newly signed .

Photo, to say the least - bad, and if you compare this painting on photo to painting on professional photo retouching and other previous treatment, then the natural "a striking difference". A painting by the difference?
It may well be the work hierarchy.
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My opinion - an old copy of the newly signed .

A copy of the what - the picture hierarchy or with a picture of another author ? If the signature is made by dry ink layer , it does not mean that it did vchera.Opredelit signing only after the study. And not on the photo. All the more useless.

Yago I 24.04.2013 07:41

Bogo
 
Views of Venice painted and always will be 500 more years to draw. Find a European job is not difficult . Here's signature is already on the dry matter . Grabar just do not miss . Case in point , that people are not stupid and if you already do business then approach this with knowledge of the case. , Orlovsky and Kiseleva forged works of Danish artist , by the way very similar .

uriart 24.04.2013 08:08

tandem, you want to buy it?

I'll give you the link and go.

Personally, I do not need it, even if the authorship is confirmed.

Assuming that the work of this looks like in the photo, the question arises:

"Who is this for?"

тандем 24.04.2013 08:35

Dear Yago I, here you have decided to retell the story of numerous television documentaries about art forgeries ? Ungrateful zanyatie.Interesney was used on the merits .
Quote : Originally Posted by Yago I
Here's signature is already on the dry matter . Grabar just do not miss .

 By your leaves, that Grabar " missing " only " test "? Originalno.No very much simplified - that's me on your statement that " Grabar just do not miss ."
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tandem , you will want to buy it ?

Is it came to buying?
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Сообщение от uriart; 2569531 "
Share opinions.
Thank you .

So I shared and if our opinions do not coincide , it is not a reason to start a " load" .....
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Personally, I do not need it , even if the authorship is confirmed .

If authorship is confirmed, it means that you have once again rushed to the statement - again want to cheat buyers.

uriart 24.04.2013 09:48

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tandem, anything can be !
Possible and hurried with ( again want to cheat ) , although I'm sure it's not.
The difference is that the photo is online ( 30 40kbayt ) looks good , but in the photo , 1-2 Mgbayta 's different , that is all as it is vague . Or make offer on hand inept photographer?

And what about shipping ?
I do what anyone does not ship and it's not my rules of life!

soveticus 24.04.2013 10:44

Painting itself is very good, it can be seen even in such photos.
At the same hierarchy, it does not.

Jane Doe 24.04.2013 16:49

uriart, the auction house FAAM (Fine Art Auctions Miami), which exhibit this material is rapidly gaining some specific shade in sales. Yes, after a successful and unexpectedly profitable realization of Valentin Serov painting for $ 4.7 million, there could yank counterfeiters Russian painting. Here, I recently showed "Korovin" from the auction FAAM.
 http://forum.artinvestment.ru/showpo...1&postcount=32

The level of the first two a-la-Korovin says that the concept of expertise on Russian art, or at least minimal knowledge of the material there completely otstutstvuyut.
Latest photo Korovin, work is also brought from France, had not sold there (in 1910, according to the description).
In provenance to-Bogolyubov us make a mistake in the name - logic dictates that there should be Troubetskoy Family. That is, those who wrote did not even know who the Troubetzkoy, and those who work zdal show complete his innocence. The trick is.
So we have to be very careful, loud sale creates some vacuum. The logic is simple forger. Once paid for Serov $ 4.7 million, so there is confidence in the auction. That bear once all that is needed to pass. Blast wave of success came the auction and to Gene Shapiro and there is also immediately got its own Serov. However, is not real. Thank God, in the evaluation of 200-300 thousand dollars no one bought it because it was obvious.

http://www.geneshapiro.com/report.shtml?id=4096

uriart, I'll just add my reasoning to your doubts and ask to be very vigilant with this auction.
There is no common sense to import original paintings from France to Miami, with close to London's prestigious auction, the same at Christie's in Paris, in the end, to Moscow, where the mass of the points of sale.

uriart 24.04.2013 19:59

Jane Doe, Thank you!

I also thought about:

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Игорь Гурьев 25.04.2013 01:09

Picture is good, but somehow not hierarchy is very similar.


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