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CDL 01.04.2013 13:38

Aivazovsky picture information
 
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Good afternoon!

Help gather information on this picture :

there eks. - Pacific region. Finally , there are photos , and lower, the following questions arise :

1. different names on the photos - on ekzate - " Beach St. George Monastery in Crimea", on the analysis of pigment paintings - " boat to the shore ," the actual name of the film ?

2. Sign up - V.I.Tsitovich .

3. size 61.7 h97 , 2 - 1885

4. the estimated cost for today ...

Владимир Владимирович 01.04.2013 13:57

Call an expert.
He will tell all.
:)>

мистер-у 01.04.2013 18:44

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Good afternoon!

Help gather information on this picture :

there eks. - Pacific region. Finally , there are photos , and lower, the following questions arise :

1. different names on the photos - on ekzate - " Beach St. George Monastery in Crimea", on the analysis of pigment paintings - " boat to the shore ," the actual name of the film ?

2. Sign up - V.I.Tsitovich .

3. size 61.7 h97 , 2 - 1885

4. the estimated cost to date ...


 The state of this picture is not that bad and poor, living on it is no place of restavratsii.Vy show photos in the UV, then the community will be able to assess.

Николай Левенко 01.04.2013 21:13

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1 . different names on the photos - on ekzate - " Beach St. George Monastery in Crimea", on the analysis of pigment paintings - " boat to the shore ," the actual name of the film ?

I do not know what I can help you. The fact that this is undoubtedly the work you have already answered Aivazovsky V.I.Tsitovich . Regarding the name - of course true that the name , which is written by hand of the master himself "Beach St. George Monastery in Crimea", especially since the canvas really shows the location area of the monastery of St. George . The name " Sailboat on the shore " as reflected in the results of the analysis of fabric can be a working title. Your main question , namely the cost of the picture beyond my competence.

Wladzislaw 02.04.2013 01:25

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The state of this picture is not that bad and poor, living on it is no place of restavratsii.Vy show photos in the UV, then the community can appreciate.


To do this (to correct the situation) there is a good reconstruction.
Not necessarily - the "horror-horror" :)>

CDL 03.04.2013 08:45

Evaluation expertise)))
 
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Good afternoon! You know sometimes get mixed impression )) but oh well ... the views of members of the forum are different, one good red, the other is the same ...
got expert appraisal reports ... and evaluation of " terror " :D>
probably just over the hill people are smarter because they do not have our "buy a 100 that is worth 10,000.00 " or steal a barrel of alcohol sold and the money to spend on drink )) is my personal opinion))

Fed 03.04.2013 09:07

Not tied to the price of $ 1914, as in the appraisal report, just look at the recent sales auctions worldwide.

Rate This picture-in $ 1.5 million - well, very optimistic.

I wonder how much it will buy the "country Ukraine"?

CDL 03.04.2013 09:40

Not tied to the price of $ 1914, as in the appraisal report , just look at the recent sales auctions worldwide .

but recent sales were more than 5 ml USD) )) Of course , for different works ) :)>

 Rate This picture- in $ 1.5 million - well, very optimistic.

Not at all, it is a qualitative assessment of a competent , based on facts, mathematical calculations, and so on, rather than a " trumped-up ") and not one assessment expertise and more than one) ))

 I wonder how much it will buy the " country Ukraine "?
 I am also interesting))

here is my personal opinion, but it has already set out earlier) ) :D>

Кирилл Сызранский 03.04.2013 09:50

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is a qualitative assessment of a competent, based on facts, mathematical calculations, and so on, rather than a "trumped-up") and not one of their assessment expertise and more)))

You can get competent evaluation, but never sell the thing for a sum estimate.

CDL 03.04.2013 09:54

so no one there and no dispute))) as the fact that you can not rated pardon me "bullshit" push is worth 3 pennies for Millions of dollars) :D>

Кирилл Сызранский 03.04.2013 10:11

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probably just over the hill people smarter

And what does " over the hill "?
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yes recent sales were more than 5 ml USD) )) Of course , for different works )

Expensive to buy for only a unique work by Aivazovsky , with history , with bright provenance.
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just looked at recent sales auctions worldwide .

You do much better posmortrite Aivazovsky on sale and how much it sold.

CDL 03.04.2013 10:17

everyone has their own opinion) and I disskusiyu where and why that is not interesting))
 
and the painting except council turned to the experts and I have not heard anything more sensible))

Fed 03.04.2013 10:21

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4.
the estimated cost to date.

And who can tell the approximate cost in Ukraine?

You see the price of Sotheby's.

And in Ukraine ...
Suddenly there is a local oligarch with a desire to buy right now, one price, no, quite different.

Кирилл Сызранский 03.04.2013 10:22

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approximate cost for today ...

To understand it , I think, no harm will be to learn how to deal with Furn sales of other pictures of this website today.
No?
You watched:
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just looked at recent sales auctions worldwide .

And now write so :
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I disskusiyu where what and why not interesting

Well, if you are not interested , the owner of the subject and , as I understand , its seller, then another, and even more so there is nothing to talk about.

CDL 03.04.2013 10:26

Not tied to the price of $ 1914, as in the appraisal report , just look at the recent sales auctions worldwide .
 Rate This picture- in $ 1.5 million - well, very optimistic.
 I wonder how much it will buy the " country Ukraine "?

This is who wrote it? ))) ))) )))

And for Syzran allocated:

what you quoted in a previous post

on - just look at the recent sales auctions worldwide .

So it was not my message ))) Be careful :D> :D> :D>


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