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Sergey11 01.04.2013 12:15

Seen at the show
 
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Seen at the show

Suprematist watercolor Suetina


could not take a photo but the analogy was held at Christie's in 1999




wondering what could be the price today (purely speculative) at the same auction

?

Кирилл Сызранский 01.04.2013 12:55

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Сообщение от Sergey11 (Сообщение 2533761)
analog was held at Christie's in 1999


http://www.christies.com/lotfinder/l...b-d39595399247


wondering what could be the price today (purely speculative) at the same auction

?

Votpros type " and that if I buy a watercolor at the Salon, then a lope I selling it at Christie's, well, purely speculative? ", right?
:)>

sergejnowo 01.04.2013 13:30

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Сообщение от Sergey11 (Сообщение 2533761)
at the same auction

when viewed through the prism of statistics, the work is likely to cause no interest and will not be sold.

Владимир Владимирович 01.04.2013 13:46

Speculative cycle of some sort.
Christie `s - Salon.
Salon - Christie `s.
Slightly primitive scheme biznesa.Slishkom simple.
<- ~ 10 -> Is not it?
:D>

Борис Кон 01.04.2013 13:55

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzran (Сообщение 2533811)
Votpros type " and that if I buy a watercolor at the Salon, then a lope I selling it at Christie's, well, purely speculative? ", right?
:)>


M - a - l - o - d - e - n!
- Meaning, Cyril Syzran.
Immediately saw through the lad.

Sergey11 01.04.2013 13:57

Cyril , I never thought I did not gallery which rob grannies for a penny and then sell for millions (even rubles) or another option to buy Christie /Sotheby 20-30 and 100 are selling for sdes (and such work I saw pieces 5 - but this is what I saw and what I like Christie /Sotheby 's )
Work on the interior is not of Kristy just in the same way and the same size

Mnya interested in this case only involves the assessment and whether they have similar things Suetina any investment potential in the future.
Just by statistics I looked at a Sotheby's and Christie's , they are very rare - it's lack of interest in Suetin or just a lack of work that can be sold at auction

тандем 01.04.2013 14:02

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when viewed through the prism of statistics , the work is likely to cause no interest and will not be sold.

But could not specify what kind of statistics do you mean?
Here is the information from the FindArtInfo.com http://www.findartinfo.com/search/li...yword=--Suetin
If there is a problem , it is in the absence of proposals - from 2009 to 2011 inclusive for auction was presented only one job, which was successfully sold.

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Сообщение от sergejnowo; 2533891"
when viewed through the prism of statistics , the work is likely to cause no interest and will not be sold.

But could not specify what kind of statistics do you mean?
Here is the information from the FindArtInfo.com http://www.findartinfo.com/search/li...yword=--Suetin
If there is a problem , it is in the absence of proposals - from 2009 to 2011 inclusive for auction was presented only one job, which was successfully sold.

Sergey11 01.04.2013 14:02

I am interested in the investment potential of the same or Suetina Dobuzhinsky or Bilibin - both in actions - first choose which sector do you think then you look promising in this sector by country and then have to choose the specific paper
In my particular securities investment horizon of 3 to 7 years.

So I decided to try to estimate the probability of use of the scheme in the subject of art

Do not think there is no desire or more features ( for me amateur ) take $ 100 today and tomorrow to sell for $ 10,000

but take today for $ 10,000 and retired to sell for 200-300 thousand $ Here is an interesting (but perhaps whether)

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But could not specify what kind of statistics do you mean?
Here is the information from the FindArtInfo.comhttp://www.findartinfo.com/search/li...yword=--Suetin
If there is a problem , it is in the absence of proposals - from 2009 to 2011 inclusive for auction was presented only one job, which was successfully sold . [/QUOTE]

I looked at a Sotheby's auction results Kristi and so after 1999 Suetin ( watercolor Suprematism ) were not there and then it was worth 9, and the second of his work 12 thousand $
Who does not remember a time in one room apartment in Moscow cost $ 25-30 thousand so that the money had already been a very, very decent

artcol 01.04.2013 14:11

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Сообщение от Sergey11 (Сообщение 2534061)
investment potential of the same or Suetina Dobuzhinsky or Bilibin

Perhaps there is a potential ...

sergejnowo 01.04.2013 14:11

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Сообщение от Sergey11 (Сообщение 2534061)
I am interested in the investment potential of the same Suetina

Who can guarantee that you buy in this case, work hand Suetina?

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If there is a problem , it is in the absence of proposals - from 2009 to 2011 inclusive for auction was presented only one job, which was successfully sold

turn to Sergey11 if you plan to invest in art, you will not need to save on a few hundred $ , buy a ticket to Artprice.
Showing only graphics.

sergejnowo 01.04.2013 14:32

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Сообщение от tandem , 2534041"
If there is a problem , it is in the absence of proposals - from 2009 to 2011 inclusive for auction was presented only one job, which was successfully sold

turn to Sergey11, if you are planning to invest in art, it is not necessary to save a few hundred $ , buy a ticket to Artprice.
Showing only graphics.

Балагур 01.04.2013 14:56

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Сообщение от Sergey11; 2534061"
I am interested in the investment potential of the same or Suetina Dobuzhinsky or Bilibin

Here is what many are interested in :cool:>

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Сообщение от Sergey11; 2534061"
Do not think there is no desire, or rather the possibility (for me amateur ) take $ 100 today and tomorrow to sell for $ 10,000

Very healthy desire ! But , otherwise, what's the point ? :D>

Sergey11 01.04.2013 17:37

Joker simply no miracles or their probability of less than 1 %

As for the above links from artprice how most here say American auctions in general and in particular Shapiro is 99.9%not the work that we have in mind so this statistic is not as good as it sounds

Indeed , logically, there is no problem with the customs ( in the EU or the U.S.)
then what is the point to sell songs Suetina Shapiro for 5-7 thousand $ if Christie /Sotheby's 15 years ago, they have already cost a lot of money
Ie either people are not very far-sighted or it is not what it seems
Indeed, in the presentation of statistics is not French auctions are responsible to the customer money , and not the first 3 days of purchase items.
Obtained 100%and 100%guarantee of success can only be the masters of the first line and the same " religious works"
and everything else is so self-indulgence :mad:>

Кирилл Сызранский 01.04.2013 19:29

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Сообщение от Sergey11 (Сообщение 2534461)
Indeed, in the statistics provided by the French auctions are not liable to the customer money, and not the first 3 days from the date of acquisition of items.

There is a French auction.

Sergey11 01.04.2013 20:35

discussion did not work


Purely my opinion that Suprematist amateurish watercolors Suetina 10 years will already cost + -100 thousand $ a normal attribution and provenance

but 100000th Clover immediately and will remain


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