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wertu777 04.03.2013 10:32

Vase E.GALLE, attribution
 
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Gentlemen connoisseurs to GIM far it puts up for discussion.

Thanks in advance! From SW.

wertu777 04.03.2013 10:36

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more photos

wertu777 04.03.2013 10:40

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More photos vases

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and some photos

wertu777 04.03.2013 10:43

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and some photos

тандем 04.03.2013 11:13

Here's an interesting article on the definition of authenticity and production time vases GALLE http://www.antik-invest.ru/blog/?p=8925
Proceeding from the information in the article submitted by you vase has a base and an authentic signature GALLE firm around 1910.
With regard to evaluation, the 1 cm height similar vases valued at 100 dollarov.Takaya estimate was a couple of years ago.

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Here's an interesting article on the definition of authenticity and production time vases GALLE http://www.antik-invest.ru/blog/?p=8925
Proceeding from the information in the article submitted by you vase has a base and an authentic signature GALLE firm around 1910.
With regard to evaluation, the 1 cm height similar vases valued at 100 dollarov.Takaya estimate was a couple of years ago.

wertu777 04.03.2013 11:23

add vase height 32 cm

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I would like more authoritative opinions :)>

soveticus 04.03.2013 21:59

wertu777, Good evening. Judging by the photos , the vase can be Romanian fraud . Can say for sure , but taking it in his hands. However, if you offer it for sale , I would not recommend . Please note that the vase does not have traces of existence , that is, micro-scratches from cleaning and wiping (100 years) - this does not happen . And the quality of treatment ( I think) , is lower than it should be.

wertu777 04.03.2013 22:04

vecher.stranno good that you do not see "signs of existence." well take a look to the photo close-ups! assure you these same tracks, there are enough of! with HC

Кирилл Сызранский 04.03.2013 22:09

Цитата:

Сообщение от wertu777 (Сообщение 2485591)
I would like more authoritative opinions

About what?

The approximate price you said.

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Сообщение от soveticus (Сообщение 2486821)
vase may be Romanian fake

I also think it's Romania.

wertu777 04.03.2013 22:16

I do not know ... according to the article mentioned all the signs of the original tandem prisutstvuyut.Pochemu yet sure - this rariteta.Vaza known provenance can not be fake because Romania during her appearance in Russia Romanians are not thinking about the production of fakes ...

with HC

Кирилл Сызранский 04.03.2013 22:24

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Сообщение от wertu777 (Сообщение 2486931)
vase can not be fake because Romania during her appearance in Russia Romanians are not thinking about the production of fakes ...

Romanians is legally released his glass "on Halle" and brought back in the USSR.
Maybe it's just the product 70 of the twentieth century.

wertu777 04.03.2013 22:41

Cyril , look closely at the product (otherwise not be called) of the Romanians in the same article ... Technology has been more advanced so their products, how to say it , too smooth or something! And they present a small "tip" near Galle! Even if drunk and grind master engravers - the surface is like poplosche ...
with HC

Кирилл Сызранский 04.03.2013 22:48

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Сообщение от wertu777 (Сообщение 2487021)
Cyril, look closely at the product (otherwise not be called) of the Romanians in the same article ...

Why should I see in the article, I saw rummynskih gall live.

wertu777 04.03.2013 22:51

It is right that the Romanian Galle in small letters !

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NOTE SUCH VASE IS IN THE HOUSE - MUSEUM CHICAGO:
 GLESSNER HOUSE MUSEUM

CLICK ON PHOTO
SAME ORNAMENT Romanian " master" for comparison:
http://www.antik-invest.ru/blog/?attachment_id=4021
THIS AUTHENTIC same pattern :
http://ant-skazka.ru/catalog/steklo?page=1
LOOK , compare , draw conclusions

тандем 05.03.2013 11:33

On the English site is very much about the vases stamped GALLE. The authors of the articles that focus on the identification, agree on one thing - counterfeiting thousands of times greater than originalov.Est crude forgeries. This basically Kitay.Kitay may be identified by the casting seams. There are those that can distinguish only specialist GALLE.Rumyny make products which are written may be distinguished from the real thing if once carried a little piece authentic . Most complicated case - fake GALLE manufactured in France at a time when these are released ... ..
Furthermore , authentic products have at least two layers of glass , and the cost is estimated at thousands of dollars ( in one article stood assessment - at least 250 -300 dollars per inch , depending on the complexity of the pattern, layering and function product).
I think that is not a specialist in absentia and is difficult to determine the authenticity shown vazy.Dlya this should consult at least to the antique dealers who in the subject.


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