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spaiki 19.02.2009 09:34

I would like to know
 
(((((((((((((

danvik 19.02.2009 10:24

Perhaps this is a copy of Ryabushkin

spaiki 19.02.2009 12:55

danvik, well, and for how much it can sell?

Жар-птица 19.02.2009 22:01

According to the plot is very similar to Ryabushkin, and suddenly the original :-)
Price for his work in "Artists" on this site.

Кирилл Сызранский 19.02.2009 22:12

Firebird, you at least put smiles ... By theme seriously you will understand the price will be interested.

наследник 19.02.2009 23:24

Gentlemen

With all due respect to you I write these lines ..
I looked, before you come to the forum, a lot of different themes.
Experience has gathered, allegory and allusions contemplate.
When these things to you personally, do not belong, then treat them more appropriately, I suppose.
Because in the "heat" sell greed begins to obscure the eyes, and you're mad at the man who gently hinted to you that thing "on an amateur and you're, in essence, a single ruble for it did not get.
But you begin to fully trust what anyone saw in the support and hope. Although he only wrote that "something interesting".
To me, these feelings are still very fresh, and I understand very well how to perceive and rating and the number to say thank you and the ranking of site visitors ordinary newcomers who have the problem, and something - write a "help" and wait for that "uncle" all over He will find, identify, advise ...
One Zhorik - an entire encyclopedia of these feelings, bordering on the absolute belief in compulsory care and confirmed the value of exhibited items.
And yet ... A thousand apologies ... why not just tell people that his thing is of no artistic interest.
Indeed, in most cases it is even seen me.
Here's an example with this picture.
Do you think that keeping people in blissful ignorance more humanely than the right to express their opinion about the artistic merits of the work presented?
Or is it still a fear that rare error that could undermine the credibility of the conquered?
Of course, these are my views more humanistic-abstract nature, rather than practical application.
But, in fact, if I am - an amateur, I see that this initiative of the deaf, but I read that it could be some interesting artists with the name, what would you have me thinking about common sense and cultural orientations?
I'm not talking about complicated for assessments of naive art or modernists.
I mean - in our case - a specific thing that anyone can look in the first post and make its verdict.
So my naive question-pochenu this happen?
What do you consider more productive - for the amateur "or" good only hole on the wall to close?

uriart 19.02.2009 23:33

heir, quite agree with you!
No need to keep people hope that maybe it would be original.
Sometimes I am rude in their responses.
But, frankly, it's better for crude and truth, rather than "soft" to lie and do not deprive a person of joy of hope.
Why? All the same, if a person wants to sell it without examination will not sell. And then everything cleared up.

Konstantin 19.02.2009 23:49

Цитата:

So my naive question-pochenu this happen?
Even now, you do not simply say that this picture is garbage, and deployed. Psychology simple, looked and saw that nonsense and I thought - why klatsat the keys? Or someone is Set for you, and say, or so and come down.
And when this question will sound in the 10 th, for the hundredth time? And you pass by, to more interesting topics. And then the way answers are soft on humanity forumchan perceive the child as an amateur, which simply something neutral to say, not to pester, than to give to Priest.

наследник 19.02.2009 23:59

Konstantin, so be it. But you would prefer an accurate diagnosis or the word "self pass"?

Кирилл Сызранский 20.02.2009 00:18

Цитата:

Сообщение от spaiki (Сообщение 228756)
is a picture of her for many years 50 exactly, but we do not know her name and who drew it

What's the answer? Title knows who else? And the author? I-no ...

Konstantin 20.02.2009 00:21

No well, still not here oncological center (pah-pah) and our response to diletanskoy picture of a man nothing catastrophic will happen. Now, if we are on Kandinsky he began to hang the noodles are so ugly. And so is suitable for you child, shows a toy gun and asked "It looks like this?" If you say no, upset, and so he grows up and understand.
Although I, too, for honest answers. But I'm here once said that the picture is so-so and the little-known artist, he began to reproach - "They say how is it possible not to know such a good Ukrainian artist ..."

Tana 20.02.2009 03:28

I also believe that we must speak the truth, because if a man asked a question he knows that the answer may be both positive and negative,
Well, if upset, offended, so it is better not to ask,
  I know for myself, when asked about a picture (well, not like there is something), so I am very glad to see even when I was told that the masterpiece is not felt, just relieved it back.

наследник 20.02.2009 09:19

Did not want me, but our discussion itself from time to time comes into commercialism.
Here, look. (I'll talk about uniquely worthless rabotah.I only the novices, who in this branch of the majority))

For example, a man appeared some thing, he found her in the attic reached by inheritance lerevenskogo home or in the basement of demolished buildings. Just fancy - have much money, perhaps we could get for her. "
And how?
Showed in his company. Someone said - "let a thousand and a half, I'll take it from you.
Uh-uh! It is clearly more expensive - a person thinks. - Every once the money offered.
He came to the forum, put the thing, asked to assess.
For example, from the humanity of his "soft" does not disappoint on the "values" of the picture, allowed under a delusion about its price ...

And he begins to dally with this picture, painted as the devil with a bag.
And ... can not sell! And a friend has perehotel take the thing - even for a thousand rubles.

That is, I want to say that "delicate" evaluation of poor performance can be directly linked to loss of profits from the person to whom these assessments are addressed.
And the result is a paradox - people came to the forum with a desire to understand how to extract the maximum benefit, but received a life backfired.
By the way, I'm not talking about the moral costs that always occur among beginners in the process of unsuccessful operations with the sale.

dedulya37 20.02.2009 09:41

heir,

Perhaps this tolerance is manifested by the fact that the forum users do not see the pictures live and can not express the following three statements?

Although I, too, for honest answers.

I also believe that we must speak the truth

Sometimes I am rude in their responses.
But, frankly, it's better for crude and truth, rather than "soft" to lie and do not deprive a person of joy of hope.


Sometimes, honest, truthful, serious answers arouse community opposition to what was said, followed by a challenge-response: "How do you know, you're the expert?" Next passions run high and get what you promised Admin skive.

spaiki 20.02.2009 10:02

dedulya37,
Tana,
heir,
Konstantin, honestly say no I knew you

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Цитата:

Сообщение от Firebird (Сообщение 229586)
According to the plot is very similar to Ryabushkin, and suddenly the original :-)
Price for his work in "Artists" on this site.

Could you give a link, or as can not find: shy:


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