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Eriksson 06.01.2013 21:11

Bring to Russia to sell.
 
There are plans to sell something on the Russian auction.
Did someone from the experience of colleagues import pictures from the west to the official sales?

Where to read about customs duties, sales tax and so on?

And anyway, is it worth it?


Thank you in advance for all opinions.

artcol 06.01.2013 21:25

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Сообщение от Eriksson (Сообщение 2409011)
There are plans to sell something on the Russian auction. Did someone from the experience of colleagues import pictures from the west to the official sales?
Where to read about customs duties, sales tax and so on?
And anyway , is it worth it?

Thank you in advance for all opinions .

Very much debated topic , straight sucked (sorry) all the details.

Import. Know the problems . In case, if you do not have to sell and re-exportation of - makes temporary admission.

Eriksson 06.01.2013 22:02

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Сообщение от artcol (Сообщение 2409051)
very much debated topic, straight sucked (sorry) all the details.



artcol, which sucked, then?
In this topic, "import-export" I only read notes from the citizens of Russia and Ukraine.
But I was interested in the experience of compatriots from other countries.

artcol 06.01.2013 22:21

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Сообщение от Eriksson (Сообщение 2409101)
artcol, which sucked , then? In this topic, "import - export" I only read notes from the citizens of Russia and Ukraine. But I was interested in the experience of compatriots from other countries .

And no different this experience - the order of entry is the same for residents and non-residents (this is based on my experience ). If you have any cultural value , then call the experts at the airport, it will certify the cultural value, and you go through without any fees. But sales and taxes on it - you need to call the AD and ask what the procedure for concluding agreements with non-residents. I think, they also does not matter, but if SC bans , you will find an attorney.

uriart 07.01.2013 11:03

Eriksson, When importing make out "temporary admission", where it is done without any explanation of entry.

And all the taxes you will aukts.dom.

Eriksson 07.01.2013 12:11

I designed, for example, the temporary import and going home without a picture, because
it remains in the blood pressure.
Will I require any documents or customs when leaving Russia?
Make it again to show the picture that I imported temporary?

artcol 07.01.2013 12:50

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Сообщение от Eriksson (Сообщение 2409361)
I designed , for example, the temporary import and going home without a picture , because it remains in the blood pressure. Will I require any documents or customs when leaving Russia ? Make it again to show the picture that I imported temporary?

There, up to 2 years in my opinion. Upon its expiry may ask (though highly doubt that will be asked , and if asked , it is only because of a possible violation of the customs control - what if you have already taken out, and they did not know, and you can smuggle taken out, for example).

About the time it is better to clarify , because I researched the issue purely Framework , and as I understood - the logic of such. (In my opinion , there is the whole thing in 10%of the cost of exporting in various modes - in time it will be charged ...)

Anyone who buys your painting , you will need a temporary to a permanent regime to alter the order provided.

cus 07.01.2013 17:29

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Сообщение от Eriksson (Сообщение 2409361)
I designed , for example, the temporary import and going home without a picture , because it remains in the blood pressure. Will I require any documents or customs when leaving Russia ? Make it again to show the picture that I imported temporary?

If you arrange the temporary import , then sell the painting you can not. This is a breach of customs regulations. IMHO correct issue fixed. To export still have the right .

artcol 07.01.2013 17:51

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Сообщение от cus (Сообщение 2409761)
If you are making a temporary import, sell a painting that you can not. This is a breach of customs regulations. IMHO correct issue fixed. To export still have the right .

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is not allowed to transfer the powers of the owners of cultural property to the possession, use and disposal of these values, as well as the sale of cultural property , if these actions may contribute to the illegal export and import of cultural property.
http://www.vch.ru/cgi-bin/guide.cgi?...n=show&id=5585

Ie
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These actions can contribute to the illegal export and import of cultural values ​​
the sale allowed.

Ie You temporarily import NC suspected Aivazovsky, hand over to the examination. It confirms the suspicions . You are up for auction, sell, change the mode of entry to permanent. And you need not crosses the border again to bring the same item in a constant mode .

uriart 07.01.2013 18:02

Eriksson, the temporary import and Do not morochte my head!

No one!

Do you have nothing to ask!

When leaving Russia have no one asks declaration of importation.

The term of the temporary carts is FIVE years.

cus 07.01.2013 18:13

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Сообщение от uriart; 2409811"
No !
Do you have nothing to ask !
When leaving Russia have no one asks the import declaration .

Probably. Just five years later nothing asking case was started and begin to investigate quietly. And can not be excited. Devil knows. While importing records KC RESEARCH DEPARTMENT Customs is surprisingly active.

uriart 07.01.2013 20:05

cus, guess!

You customs officer, and that you manage this account!

Кирилл Сызранский 07.01.2013 21:04

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Сообщение от uriart (Сообщение 2409971)
cus, guess!

You customs officer

Moreover, that Customs Vol.
- It cus toms.
:)>

cus 07.01.2013 21:04

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Сообщение от uriart (Сообщение 2409971)
cus, guess!
You customs officer , and that you are doing this record !

Other Cities :)> :)> I am 19 years old engaged in the movement of goods across the customs border of which the last 10 years - cultural values, as a physicist, and Eureka. It is therefore very good to know who, what and how it is :)>

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Сообщение от artcol; 2409801"
You are up for auction, sell, change the mode of entry to permanent.

Absolutely correct. First you need to change the mode , and then sell it. In this case, the problem will not. The fact that the customs procedures (old - modes ) and constraints corresponding to them , are not determined by the Law on Import and Export of KC and the legislation of the Customs Union. That's why (not associated with changes in regime and customs bureaucracy ) I would always imported , would have received an export permit and would sell in peace. And not sell - he took and brought .

Eriksson 08.01.2013 13:39

Hmmm, another headache ...

Before the Hero City of London close.
And easier.

Yes, and "contingent" there are almost all moved.
;)>


Thanks to everyone who answered!


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