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Konstantin 30.10.2012 14:39

Internet auction?
 
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Сообщение от NATA NOVA; 2317711"
Why not organize AI subsidiary - auction ?

We tried a while back - hard.
Now think over again not to renew it .
Sell ​​art or antiques ?
Interenet auctions or alive?
Well, on any in my opinion for the success of the auction need good with low start, where did you find them?

artcol 30.10.2012 15:21

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Сообщение от Konstantin (Сообщение 2317751)
We tried a while back - hard.
Now think over again not to renew it .
Sell ​​art or antiques ?
Interenet auctions or alive?
Well, on any in my opinion for the success of the auction need good with low start, where did they take ?

With low - this is what the numbers?

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Сообщение от Wladzislaw (Сообщение 2317721)
Amateur here appears as a bright representative raznochinschiny.

And you appear as a representative of the gentry perform?
hihi

Konstantin 30.10.2012 15:28

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Сообщение от artcol (Сообщение 2317811)
With low - this is what numbers?

What answer do you expect?

30-40%below the market.

artcol 30.10.2012 16:16

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Сообщение от Konstantin (Сообщение 2317831)
What kind of response are you waiting for?

30-40%below the market.

On some of the artists and the market, not really.

Artoil-A 30.10.2012 17:16

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Сообщение от Konstantin (Сообщение 2317831)
What kind of response are you waiting for?
30-40%below the market.

Right. Art manager must make an initial assessment of the picture and give a written opinion on the sales forecast.
Prices unknown artists should first put on street sales. This is 2-3 times lower, so the EXP will not help anyone. And do trade allocation depending on the auction price increase. In addition, the auction price reduction, or the issuing of thin. product agreed in writing by the artist should. Auction should have a current account and all payments to artists conduct or through cash or by bank transfer.
Artist must warn that it is responsible for the technological quality of pictures or copies (per certificate), for its originality and authorship.

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Сообщение от Konstantin (Сообщение 2317751)
We tried a while back - hard.
Now think over again not to renew it.
Sell ​​art or antiques?
Interenet auctions or alive?
Well, on any in my opinion for the success of the auction need good with low start, where did they take?

The capitalists of the Arbat given to replicate - the artist issued 10-15%of the selling price.
This is exactly the level of taxes and mandatory payments to 50%mark-up gallery. And the work is determined by the success of sales. Ie need copies. Frame, stretcher and canvas gave capitalist.
Paints and varnishes artist. Sample - were given a picture of the artist temporarily.

Vladimir 30.10.2012 18:02

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Сообщение от Konstantin (Сообщение 2317831)
What kind of response are you waiting for?

30-40%below the market.

Really like this done.
In the directory specified estimate, approximately the gallery's prices, and start assigned much lower.
Good option.
Artist's reputation suffers because estimate Unknown soul.

NATA NOVA 30.10.2012 20:54

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Сообщение от Konstantin; 2317751 "
Now think over again not to renew it .
Sell ​​art or antiques ?
Interenet auctions or alive?
Well, on any in my opinion for the success of the auction need good with low start, where did you find them?

1. You can think together (in " How to promote .. " is a discussion and thoughts)
2. Niche Modern affordable little busy, but for the antiques places do not count
3.I live ( epizodichesli ) and online ( regular)
4. http://www.gormleysartauctions.com/a...nata-nova/1295
   this initial prices (April), in July were already bids on 300 ) all works of new artists are very small initial price. ( see for yourself ).
5. Friendly attitude attracts like a magnet and the artists themselves find a place where they can be sold civilized . (I own an e-mail to send pictures ..)
6. Find work !

Pavel 31.10.2012 12:17

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Сообщение от Konstantin (Сообщение 2317751)
We tried a while back - hard.
Now think over again not to renew it .
Sell ​​art or antiques ?
Interenet auctions or alive?
Well, on any in my opinion for the success of the auction need good with low start, where did they take ?

Well, finally! See the light ! Start with all things in the telescope , people will understand. The main regularity and good to the people could smell the purchase. We only close on Frunze 7 antiques. To provide them with permanent platform and support online and they will stand in line. , Because it is the best form of attracting customers. The rich themselves will be coming legs.

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Сообщение от Wladzislaw (Сообщение 2317721)
Amateur here appears as a bright representative raznochinschiny. Put on our coats, the people go. Support the peasants. Words, there are different stables will learn about and spread the book knowledge itself.

A muzhychku Tiryshkina extra knowledge is not necessary, many of knowledge ... and a book he was reading, and more, no need. Not that read, but saw. Well ... not really seen, friend from Moscow said that he spoke with foreign malevalschikami, and they told him that the city of Paris, there is a book, which is called Acuña, where all the honor, in honor spelled out how much and what to pay a whale Money is justice. That this and it is necessary. No, the book will not buy it, do not buy nichigo. There was already one scatty, also sold a book, the rating was called. Also do not buy it. And I will not. Sell ​​itself. In fairness. And it does not much. And the fact that the French have those better, and cheaper, and I have expensive? ... So then slander, and who said that those fruntsuzy tell the truth? I inostarntsy much money to buy a huge, yes. Prove? ... Than talking about? Me hrestyaninu not believe? You, in general, hto? ... Baba, some dressed as. And can not a woman, not at all, and, say, shpienov. One must take it to the county to check.

Frankly I do not understand what this guy wrote. You're my friend enrolled at Stroganov, then we'll talk, though in French, and in Polish, I do not understand.

kazerov 31.10.2012 18:18

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Сообщение от Konstantin (Сообщение 2317751)
We tried a while back - hard.
Now think over again not to renew it .
Sell ​​art or antiques ?
Interenet auctions or alive?
Well, on any in my opinion for the success of the auction need good with low start, where did they take ?

and what difficulties? ozvuchte possible pliz.
artinvestmen.ru - already quite -proven ...
why or, for sure there is a solution to and ... may be different , the conditions for participation ? ...

NATA NOVA 01.11.2012 01:51

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Сообщение от kazerov; 2319391"
and what difficulties? ozvuchte possible pliz.
artinvestmen.ru - already quite established itself ...

of course will be ( at first) , but if all the pre - produmat to detail (from the format to the packaging : from money transfer to delivery,

The most important thing after all is. Has all the ingredients (almost)
You can start with the most simple - small size and works on paper /cardboard, without frames and canvases on stretchers ( for convenience). Format of mail art /ArtMania to size " suitcase " ( for example) ...
 Start the mechanism and see. ( And what happens? )
The main thing is that the artist offers adequate prices for AA

Pavel 01.11.2012 09:05

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Сообщение от NATA NOVA (Сообщение 2320051)
of course will be ( at first) , but if all the pre - produmat to detail (from the format to the packaging : from money transfer to delivery,

The most important thing after all is. Has all the ingredients (almost)
You can start with the most simple - small size and works on paper /cardboard, without frames and canvases on stretchers ( for convenience). Format of mail art /ArtMania to size " suitcase " ( for example) ...
 Start the mechanism and see. ( And what happens? )
The main thing is that the artist offers adequate prices for AA

We must learn from the experiences of other auctions and similar events. While we are under no obligation either to the west or to the east should take the bull by the horns, but no longer rely on the artists , and the antiques - they are now in poor condition. They need a market.

NATA NOVA 01.11.2012 10:57

Pavel, let's specifics. (And everything , then you have my heart aches !)
Regular auction AA , I only know one. Niche is free .
I repeat : for antique points of sale /purchase is full . (and judging by the topic , ignore "them and so well fed" )
This is for young artists (that do not have died of starvation , well for those who need it ) , "Let all the flowers bloom !"
Even if at first the zeros will be in a social sense , this is a positive , feed the (last) hope Projects ..

Pavel 01.11.2012 13:04

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Сообщение от NATA NOVA (Сообщение 2320581)
Pavel, let's specifics. (And everything , then you have my heart aches !)
Regular auction AA , I only know one. Niche is free .
I repeat : for antique points of sale /purchase is full . (and judging by the topic , ignore "them and so well fed" )
This is for young artists (that do not have died of starvation , well for those who need it ) , "Let all the flowers bloom !"
Even if at first the zeros will be in a social sense , this is a positive , feed the (last) hope Projects ..

Nata! I'm in District 7 antiques. People there, and it's the auction and advertising and the ability to make money and sell goods . Antinkvaru always easier to make a collection for sale. If they have the opportunity to implement them, then going to buy from the artists and not just cream, but that's all. Artists yourself in the affairs of sales is not very. Will be able to sell, there is demand, it will go .

Konstantin 01.11.2012 16:56

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Originally Posted by Konstantin View Post
We tried a while back - hard.
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Сообщение от kazerov; 2319391"
and what difficulties ?

The first and main form:
- Repetition of existing internet auctions pointless
- The form of a live auction, but through the Internet (a few days at the auction with a specific date and time of the end ) does not lead to trading , all waiting for the last second to make a bid.
- What to do with the pictures ? they are brought to our office , that is exactly is available, or they remain in the auction from the owners ? And if you sold them to the reality there ? How to authenticate ? Who is responsible?
If everything is done in a live auction, only to conduct online auctions - and the meaning? Why is the picture will suffer us not to scoop or Sotheby's ?
If the pictures do not collect and do not bear responsibility than we differ from ebeya or hammer ?
There are many questions yet to begin and this will suffice.

NATA NOVA 01.11.2012 18:24

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Сообщение от Konstantin (Сообщение 2320901)
First and foremost format:
- Repetition of existing internet auctions pointless
- The form of a live auction, but through the Internet (a few days at the auction with a specific date and time of the end) does not lead to trading, all waiting for the last second to make a bid.
- What to do with the pictures? they are brought to our office, that is exactly is available, or they remain in the auction from the owners? And if you sold them to the reality there? How to authenticate? Who is responsible?
If everything is done in a live auction, only to conduct online auctions - and the meaning? Why is the picture will suffer us not to scoop or Sotheby's?
If the pictures do not collect and do not bear responsibility than we differ from ebeya or hammer?
There are many questions yet to begin and this will suffice.

The basic idea - AA on AI (afordabl art on Artinvestment).
What (except Gormley) AAA (af, art auctions) generally known?
I just do not know the other. When I wrote about the niche, I just meant only AA.
Sotheby's is not engaged in the AA (cheaper than £ 2000 - (100 000rub?) They do not see), do not work with the living and the unknown.
Did I mention the size is not by chance (for convenience). To reduce the difficulty.
In the "how to promote .." there was a discussion.
This only has a regular and continuous, (to unsold participated in some time again)

PS. but if you really have no time to tinker and organize (staff inflate, etc,) and if you do not see a niche, and do not think about the case or any mention ..
And the idea has long been in the air-NO AA auctions (and if so, give links pliz!)


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