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mihailovoh 02.10.2012 11:58

E.Magdesyan?
 
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Look pozhaluysta.mozhet it be etude E Mahtesyan?
x \\ m about 16-29.
In Moscow.
in my opinion.
E Magdesyana.mozhet relatives live on the forum have them.

Кирилл Сызранский 02.10.2012 14:53

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can it be etude E Mahtesyan?

What can be understood from this photograph?

One can see just what it is "chemical" pink (mountain, coastline, sails, and something in the sky) is not out of his palette.

mihailovoh 04.10.2012 08:53

E Mahtesyan?
 
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This skan.chut more brightness pravda.chem real.
 
Known. Eskizy.etyudy all and most of the works disappeared during the civil war. Well as. That E Mahtesyan neodnokrano repeated his small works for sale mk.
lived very poorly.
 
Etalonnyya work on a small palette 19th

Кирилл Сызранский 04.10.2012 14:47

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is known . Eskizy.etyudy all and most of the works disappeared during the civil war

No, not the majority , but a lot .
Part of the work was left after the death of EH Mahtesyan unattended in a house on the street Dolgorukovskoj in Simferopol (where there used to be an art gallery Mahtesyan ) and the house of his brother artist M. J. Mahtesyan in Armyansk.
The fall of 1920 , fighting between the Red Army and parts of Wrangel unfolded just Perekop and Minas Mahtesyan and his family were forced to move to Simferopol , and their house was an old trunk, which had been under lock pomesheny pictures and Guarneri violin .
And as for the return in the Armenian nothing in the house was found.

By the way, during World War II, many paintings Simferopol Art Gallery killed, including several works Mahtesyan and last work of the artist , " Morning ."

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Etalonnyya work on a small palette of 19th

How did this work? And what does "reference"?

mihailovoh 04.10.2012 16:03

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Cyril Syzran,
 Thanks for the clarification
 Reference - to the last exhibition in Swallow gnezde.Ee You can look at the cards and so on.
 And esche.Posmotrite fragments ( photos there under rukoy.a in snana not included on other general photo - dam.no doubt if you need anything at all? ) On a large palette of 19th 40-54 sm.Predstavlenie can get.

Кирилл Сызранский 04.10.2012 16:10

mihailovoh, I reference things E. Mahtesyan think his paintings from the collection of the family LM Mahtesyan, National Gallery of Armenia, and Simferopol Art Museum.

mihailovoh 04.10.2012 16:23

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Cyril Syzran,

I give them as etalona.no usually are complete kartiny.Etyudov least what it did not find the same samples sovsem.tk potorov.a judging by their literature, he wrote a lot and sold ..... clearly not in the collection.

Кирилл Сызранский 04.10.2012 16:26

mihailovoh, be honest though I was engaged (or interested in, if you want to :)) at the time Magdesyanom, but here's the landscape I see for the first time on pallets, and even winter
landscape in general, and in the pictures are not met.

mihailovoh 04.10.2012 17:46

Cyril Syzran,
As far as I understood from the memories of E Magdesyane . Was little work and their repeats ( in tch.na palettes ) went on sale for livelihood + work on Aivazovsky and dr.krome mizernoy.ne regulyaronoy zarplaty.O all big and famous lost work (of desyaki ) referenced when and who priobretal.tam easy to trace.
Just when did not schupal.ne seen works by zhivuyu.melknula Gelos . Aroused but then sprory and voprosy.hot and expertise was.

Кирилл Сызранский 04.10.2012 17:54

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is small and repetitive work (in tch.na palettes) went on sale for their subsistence

Maybe, but I repeat that I see on the palettes of his work for the first time and do not remember anything about these references.

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E Mahtesyan neodnokrano repeated his small works for sale mk. lived very poorly .

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went on sale for their subsistence

Of these your words mzhno understand that E. Mahtesyan Jew poor.
Me these facts of his biography not vstrechalisb .
On the contrary , I got the impression that he was the person provided enough : his work eagerly bought , and the Academy of Arts, and private collectors, and even the Grand Duke Vladimir Alexandrovich
( at the spring exhibition in 1905 in St. Petersburg) , reproductions of his works were published regularly in the pages of the metropolitan journals " Niva", " Pictorial Review ," "St. Petersburg life," Armenian periodicals "Araks" in St. Petersburg, " Geharest " and " Usharar " in Tiflis.

mihailovoh 04.10.2012 19:06

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Cyril Syzran,

All rely on the BA tak.Ya Zurabova.zhil poor very poor and sometimes during their studies and moved to the Crimea.

The work itself to fragments larger palette to scan photo sdelal.ne much of a truth. (Face painted dull palette kraskoy.ponimayu.chto varnish was not as on Oborotka).

Кирилл Сызранский 04.10.2012 19:21

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while studying

" During the study !"
During his studies, all of the poor live. :)
 But , by the way , E. Mahtesyan , which did not have completed secondary education , yet volnoslushayuschim enroll students of the Academy of landscape painting in the class of Professor VD Orlov , and he is still in St. Petersburg and the younger brother of Minas takes and there determines its fifteen a free music school Mily Balakirev .
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on the register kept at the Academy Mahtesyan declaration addressed to the Secretary of the conference , in which he annually " humbly " asked his Excellency to issue free tickets. November 5, 1884 warden classes Pavel Cherkasov Issevu addressed with a request " to resolve the issue of the annual ticket gratuitous volyyuslushayuschemu Magdesyanu as the poor and diligently occupied in the class."

mihailovoh 04.10.2012 19:35

Cyril Syzran,

Theoretically. Whether study and a large palette E Magdesyanom.te be performed.
rukoy.chto-cited reference samples?

Strange. That this topic no one otkliknulsya.obychno ...

Кирилл Сызранский 04.10.2012 19:38

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theory. Whether the study and a large palette E Magdesyanom.te be performed.
rukoy.chto-cited reference samples?

"theory" - yes, probably.

Иван Магдесьян 17.10.2012 10:30

Hello!

I Mahtesyan cousin would like to see this work, write an email to

ivan-mag@mail.ru how to contact you.

Ivan


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