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Евгений 07.07.2008 19:22

ASSESSMENT ON Internet (Information database for 5000 artists)
 
Please describe in detail the maximum proposed now for the following parameters:

1. By.
2. Material and equipment manufacturing (oil on canvas, paper, pastels, watercolors, lithographs, oil, pencil, etc.).
3. Size (horizontal x vertical for painting).
4. Creation Time (1899 /beg., Mid-twentieth century. Etc.).
5. Captions, labels, stamps, birochki (if any - need photos).
6. Condition (breakouts, talus, scrapes).
7. Expert opinion (if available) - the organization name of the expert.
8. Qualitative picture pictures back of the painting, photo captions (if any).
9. Origin of the picture.
10. Any other information useful for the attribution of the painting.
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The information database 5000 of Russian artists, 100000 sales results (pictures, signing artists, starting prices for paintings, the sale price, Provenance (previous owners of paintings, gallery), auction houses, where they were selling, and more lot of useful information. Before asking questions, do work with this information base

http://artinvestment.ru/auctions/

Veronic 24.12.2008 22:47

Eugene, Can you please tell, and whether the price will be confirmed at the artist's paintings, such as price when selling through a gallery? Or prices are just under auctioned? What could be more supporting documents at the price of paintings of contemporary artist?

Евгений 25.12.2008 09:05

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Сообщение от Veronic (Сообщение 162716)
such as the sale price through the gallery?

Maybe, indicating, in a shop where the work was sold.

Meister 25.12.2008 10:43

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Сообщение от Eugene (Сообщение 163366)
Maybe, indicating, in a shop where the work was sold.

really?? and if the gallery had sold at exorbitant prices?

Евгений 25.12.2008 10:54

Meister, at auction, contemporary artists are selling a miserly amount, and how you'll determine the price? "Certainly, the price in Moscow gallery may at times differ from the price in the regional galleries, and prices in Moscow may also vary .
But, there is a notion "a list of sales of the artist."
Pricing for paintings by contemporary artists, depends on many circumstances (and auction sales are not the main factor).

Meister 25.12.2008 11:29

If we are talking about those modern artists who are not sold at auction, and promotion of a devoted entirely to the local market, then that all depends solely on who spins. If we say take shape Gagosian, he may, and at an unknown artist to put the price of 100 thousand dollars and will buy ...

Евгений 25.12.2008 12:04

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Сообщение от Meister (Сообщение 163656)
figure Gagosian

I agree 100%.

Meister 25.12.2008 12:12

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Сообщение от Eugene (Сообщение 163696)
I agree 100%.

so in terms of pricing on contemporary artists, galleries, the word is not only true

Евгений 25.12.2008 12:28

Meister, is understandable, but if the auctions get a miserly amount of artists, then to Gagosyanu microscope ... so this is absolutely a special case, and not a trend.

Meister 25.12.2008 12:47

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Сообщение от Eugene (Сообщение 163716)
This is understandable, but if the auctions get a miserly amount of artists, then to Gagosyanu microscope ... so this is absolutely a special case and not a trend.

but again, do not agree, almost all the world stars of the contemporary art market had been "made" Gagosyanom, and their sale at auction now nemeryannom ... without the participation in auctions modern artist is almost always can not be popular.

eva777 25.12.2008 13:16

Auctions.
 
I think that the price form the auctions. If you take the example of Russian art - before. went as high auction sale prices were at times lower, and after Millions sales at auctions and in the domestic market prices immediately rose.
And now, naturally in connection with the crisis, auctions neprodazhi lowered the prices we have.

Евгений 25.12.2008 15:03

eva777, and you and master right, but the question asked Veronica, and the conversation so I knew went on contemporary artists 35-45 years old (eg such as Arthur Braginsky) average, good, professional urovnya.S world-class artists all clear .. Tell me how you are in the gallery are working with contemporary artists (in terms of pricing)?

eva777 26.12.2008 11:48

assessment
 
Middle-run is not worth it, is to work only with high-level professionals. And better that the artist was distinctive, that his style must be guessed at once.
  If you directly from the artist, then the price he appoints himself, and then you can bargain and come to the same amount, which satisfied both.
Although, it all depends on the artist, some are not traded.
In all the galleries in different ways, once listened to Aidan Salakhova, she said that the minimum price for the work of young artists - 2,500-5000 $, which is to begin. Otherwise there is no sense.
If you want the price rose, promotion of the artist to go to the gallery owner: exhibitions, catalogs, PR, etc. The only condition for the artist, it should be working, stagnation in the work are not welcome!

Жар-птица 27.12.2008 20:06

Sorry, that intervened. I was at an auction in December, Russian Art Gallery (sales weak), do you think if an artist sold well for them or in Sovkome can work with him? And perspetiven whether it? And ridiculously, estimate at the same authors in these auctions koordinalno differ. But Sovkome and base and sales significantly higher. In general, as you can see the prospect of Soviet artists from the recently created Union of Russian Artists? And in general, very correctly, that the new auctions are held salons, this makes the market transparent)

artcol 27.12.2008 23:03

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Сообщение от Firebird (Сообщение 168226)
Sorry, that intervened. I was at an auction in December, Russian Art Gallery (sales weak), do you think if an artist sold well for them or in Sovkome can work with him? And perspetiven whether it? And ridiculously, estimate at the same authors in these auctions koordinalno differ. But Sovkome and base and sales significantly higher. In general, as you can see the prospect of Soviet artists from the recently created Union of Russian Artists? And in general, very correctly, that the new auctions are held salons, this makes the market transparent)

Please tell us about the Union of Russian Artists. What kind of project?


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