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Olegg 19.09.2012 19:09

Portrait of a Lady with a shawl
 
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What can you learn about this picture?
The writing?
The author?
Possible value?
If anyone has suggestions, share.
Purchased in the 90 on the opening day in Izmailovo.

наследник 19.09.2012 23:13

In my opinion, vesh interesting, like an ax made.
Because the author to establish and define the same time interesting.
Especially because you do not bother to provide a portrait of a digestible form .. Sorry for the honesty of judgment.

Art-ort 20.09.2012 00:41

There are signs, face "pererestavrirovano."

Кирилл Сызранский 20.09.2012 00:45

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Сообщение от Art-ort (Сообщение 2265881)
There are some signs, face "pererestavrirovano."

But painting dresses portretirumoy original, as I see it, do not touch anything there, it seems.

Olegg 20.09.2012 08:07

Good day!
Photos from your phone.
Good quality lay Monday.

Кирилл Сызранский 27.09.2012 16:40

This picture reminds me of the " Kama portraits " of the late XVIII - XIX centuries . There is a regional phenomenon - portraits and types of plants by serfs painters Stroganoff, Abamelek- Lazarev , guild master of the ancient Kama cities and industrial settlements - Cherdyn, Chermoz , Il'inskoye, New Usolie Kudymkar, Ohansk , Suksun Kungur etc. .
Such portraits were ordered and merchants and tradesmen and artisans and factory people, and wealthy farmers , which krepostnomusostoyaniyu could shove into another class - merchants, although the capital is allowed.
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Сообщение от Art-ort; 2265881"
There are some signs , face " pererestavrirovano ."

Just on the face of these portraits by the artist , who were not professionals , yet focused on the " academic " art, nowadays look naive , of course.
Maybe someone already so naive " corrected ."

Игорь Гурьев 27.09.2012 17:15

Portretik a very strange one , and it is unclear , when it was written.
Judging by the " psihologichnosti " not before the end of the 19th century .
And according to the scheme and the fact that on her head (I forgot the name of , cap , or what? ), Then before.
It is possible that someone is "updated " old painting - and quite thorough.

Olegg 30.09.2012 19:15

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New photos and another picture for atributatsii

Olegg 30.09.2012 19:16

New photos and another picture for atributatsii

Игорь Гурьев 30.09.2012 19:42

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Сообщение от Olegg (Сообщение 2280581)
another picture for atributatsii

This is hardly Andrei Goncharov, but the scenery is quite nice.

Olegg 30.09.2012 20:59

I want to sell these pictures, that can be expected?

Борис Кон 30.09.2012 21:14

"Purchased in the 90 on the opening day in Izmailovo"


Oh, the ninetieth!
Golden days of collecting.


A lady with a shawl - quite.

Clothing fonvizinskih times.

It is possible that it is the middle of the nineteenth, in the province of fashion's always behind.

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Сообщение от Olegg (Сообщение 2280661)
I want to sell these pictures, that can be expected?


You can only rely on God.


Lady with a shawl very sellable thing.


How much you want for it?

K-Maler 30.09.2012 21:39

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Сообщение от Olegg; 2265311"
What can you learn about this picture ? The writing ? The author? Possible value ? If anyone has suggestions , share. Purchased in the 90's on a

If it is written on cardboard, then we can assume that it is a portrait of actress in the appropriate costume role ... But then it is strange that he was lost and is not stored ... But it seemed to me that there is a hole, and can be seen worn painting on canvas, then he pasted on cardboard, and it is quite another matter.
Portrait of a good, all professionally , beautifully written cap ... And these shawls were in vogue and were very expensive ...

Дилетант 30.09.2012 22:34

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Сообщение от Boris Cohn ; 2280681"
clothing fonvizinskih times.
It is possible that it is the middle of the nineteenth, the province 's always lagged fashion .

Denis Ivanovich reposed in one a thousand seven hundred and ninety second year. Perhaps the fashion news and to Kologrivov Chukhloma reached and not immediately, but certainly not in 50 years ! Not at all , sir!
And what about " 's always behind " - a very, very controversial. Province Province - are different. Not all are they Orel , then it is grief - knock about with , for the winter , then , tea, and went Piterburkh . And on the water - not only in the Lipetsk district frequented .
A self portrait - professional, noble , and very badsome . Of course , no osmnadtsatym century there was not a hint ... Neither the costume nor the image , either in painting. All-all- all gone ...

Борис Кон 30.09.2012 22:46

And I did not write that "osmnadtsaty" :)

Nineteenth - sure.

And what about the Russian "advanced" nineteenth province - are you, too, will suffice.

Some ladies on his property or county shall never visited.

Reading of the classics.
In Gogol's the same.
:)


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