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Elek 08.09.2012 14:43

70's, 80's - perspective?
 
I would like to hear your opinion on the overall trends, including
pricing, paintings of the 70 - 80-ies
the near future.

What would you notice in terms of market conditions in 5-10 years and beyond.

Thank you!

Станиславский 08.09.2012 14:57

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Сообщение от Elek (Сообщение 2248151)
I would like to hear your opinion on the overall trends , including pricing, paintings of the 70 - 80- ies the near future.
What would you notice in terms of market conditions in 5-10 years and beyond.
Thank you !

I think the price increase will only be nonconformists , representatives of the underground, in short, all those who did not belong to the mainstream socialist realist art.

Fed 08.09.2012 15:06

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What do you notice in terms of market situation

On Western artists are sold at major auctions.

Elek 08.09.2012 15:09

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I think the price increase will only be non-conformists , the representatives of the underground, in short, all those who did not belong to the mainstream socialist realist art .

What would you say to those who actively " camp" ( pardon the pun ) did not choose to simply write themselves politically unaffiliated things?

Кирилл Сызранский 08.09.2012 15:15

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What would you say to those who actively " camp" ( pardon the pun ) did not choose to simply write themselves politically unaffiliated things?

And nonconformist just not a lot of " politically engaged things ".
There, most were " aesthetic differences with the Soviet regime ," as they say. :)

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I think that the price increase will only be non-conformists, the representatives of the underground, in short, all those who did not belong to the mainstream socialist realist art.

A "severe style"?

K-Maler 08.09.2012 15:28

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What would you say to those who actively "camp" (pardon the pun) did not choose to simply write themselves politically unaffiliated things?



I think they will buy the ones who choose the pictures eyes, not your ears.

Кирилл Сызранский 08.09.2012 15:32

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I think they will buy the ones who choose the pictures eyes, not your ears.

Of course, the window Gerasimovsky peonies many interesting Yakovlevskogo lone flower in a glass.
:)

Yes?

artcol 08.09.2012 16:34

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Сообщение от Elek (Сообщение 2248151)
paintings of the 70 - 80-ies

And the kind of artists?
Or pictures?
All of them?
There's a lot that was.
Were the artists and works that reflected the time.
There were artisans and craftsmen - landscapes, pictures.

Elek 08.09.2012 17:21

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And what artists? Or pictures ? All ?

I mean artists whose flourished in these years , regardless of style and country of residence. In the first place , of course, the Soviet Union.

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There were artisans and craftsmen - landscapes , pictures .

That's interesting! What do you think will be most in demand , say, the 2020s ? For individual names all thanks, but I want to try to anticipate some general trends.

mihailovoh 08.09.2012 17:52

Elek,
 Speaking on 5-10 let.Vostrebovano be " present". Those. is recognized for the classic 70-80 years .
 A jump in prices is not expected stoit.razve only significant works and the museum level. One unit but such work . Price increase of 10-20 per cent a year most likely.
 For long periods necessarily shoot the names of the 2nd series ( but no it does not train 3-4-5 ). Dootsenennye sovremennikami.te not . nami.no in tune with the mood of the future generations.

artcol 08.09.2012 17:56

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Сообщение от Elek (Сообщение 2248411)
I meant the artists whose flourished in these years , regardless of style and country of residence. In the first place , of course, the Soviet Union.

That's interesting! What do you think will be most in demand , say, the 2020s ? For individual names all thanks, but I want to try to anticipate some general trends .

Work will be needed , which reflected the time. Era canon of socialist realism by that time passed, there was an opportunity to put some questions forever , to experiment, to look for - and some experimental results and the search can be considered successful , unique, and most importantly - the universalist .

But all the names in the bulk known ... The emergence of new unrated unlikely ...

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Elek,
 
Speaking on 5-10 let.Vostrebovano be "present". Those.
is recognized for the classic 70-80 years.

I think and re-evaluate a lot "in the negative."

Elek 08.09.2012 19:11

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I think and re-evaluate a lot "in the negative".


Undoubtedly.

mihailovoh 08.09.2012 19:25

artcol,
 Problem 70-80 in tom.chto they regionah.kak bad view in the museums and collections of regional (50- 60s were terpimo.poka centralized procurement and was available ......). and even much weaker late 19th and early 20th. This problem of heavy 90 in our strane.posledstviya which today chustvuyutsya.Pochti not vseroyatno . Had already made ​​up for the best samples .
It should be noted , and tastes of the audience today is not very .....

artcol 08.09.2012 19:34

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artcol,
 Problem 70-80 in tom.chto they regionah.kak bad view in the museums and collections of regional (50- 60s were terpimo.poka centralized procurement and was available ......). and even much weaker late 19th and early 20th. This problem of heavy 90 in our strane.posledstviya which today chustvuyutsya.Pochti not vseroyatno . Had already made ​​up for the best samples .
It should be noted , and tastes of the audience today is not very .....

And something can be nothing special ? Stagnation, decline - as if he was around . 70 this is the second generation of the severe style, the way it is represented in museums , and then - only informal bloom , but like all investigated. But here in the 90's played, the sharpness of the policy , and so on . spheres of life reflected in the painting. That's 90's - yes, there still is a valuable investment in terms of material - the artists were doing something , and purchased enough.

Here are 70 .

Elek 08.09.2012 20:01

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A can be , then nothing special ? Stagnation, decline - as if he was around . 70 this is the second generation of the severe style, the way it is represented in museums , and then - only informal bloom , but like all investigated. But here in the 90's played, the sharpness of the policy , and so on . spheres of life reflected in the painting. That's 90's - yes, there still is a valuable investment in terms of material - the artists were doing something , and purchased a little .

The nineties were, indeed, full of drama in life and in art , but I think, overall negative component of this period continues to act and act more significant time in the foreseeable future.

What do you say to those who are fond of art, which grew before rebuilding , as the dramatic changes in politics, culture , architecture, and a way of life ? Would not their taste , the pursuit of a certain driving effect in promoting art of the last period of socialism?


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