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Борис Кон 05.09.2012 17:09

Antique miniature
 
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Antique miniature - ink, pen , watercolor.
There is a signature of the author ( neizvetnogo me - who can be able to determine )
In the lower left -hand corner is the date : 1501
The photo shows the old frame of the early 20th century.
Then I designed - in a wooden vintage prints bought in Spain.
Paper without watermark , the flip side is almost dark.
Size: 23 x 17 cm
Help determine the cost , and buy for Christ.

Konstantin 12.09.2012 16:22

Why create the same topics?
Old enough to continue.
And the pictures are better placed in a readable angle, sideways considered not very convenient.

раскатов 13.09.2012 13:13

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Сообщение от Boris Cohn (Сообщение 2241641)
In the lower left-hand corner is the date: 1501

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Year is likely to be read as -1801.
Observe the clothes shown and hat.
Take a good photo caption.

Борис Кон 13.09.2012 14:01

I humbly thank you , sir Raskatov that attention.
If you can - help.
So, the year is - 1501 - it definitely .
As for attire character can not say anything , not strong.
Do you think that at the turn of the 15 - 16th centuries did not wear such clothes ?
I take this very uncomplicated image which has a certain attraction.
It would seem that the plot is simple, trivial, but is there of foot , hand movements , some special charming appeal.
Or is it just seems to me .

Photo autograph artist made in the near future .
Thank you.

Konstantin 13.09.2012 15:01

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Сообщение от peals (Сообщение 2256151)
The year is likely to be read as -1801


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Сообщение от Boris Cohn (Сообщение 2256321)
year costs - 1501 - it is definitely.

That seems to be seen better, after not clever manipulation.

Борис Кон 13.09.2012 17:21

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Extremely grateful , Konstantin, rescued an old man.

Malenkakya prehistory , This picture was found in a former mansion is quite rich . The drawing was inserted into the mat and frame on my assumptions of the early twentieth century ( see photo ) , there was a glass, is special, as it were cast . I think people, insert it was not devoid of aesthetic taste. Saved after all, did not throw a picture. So the image is presented to him, in any case, any value.
And it is always intriguing.

Now after my monipulyatsy picture looks like this:
(sorry for the quality, not the camera , take off from a mobile phone)

тандем 13.09.2012 18:05

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Сообщение от "Boris Cohn; 2254581 '
So, in my opinion, this ink, pen, watercolor.

Old paper - a fact.

There atograf and date.


Tinted engraving. Perhaps an illustration.

Autograph-read (of course not on these "photo"), 1501 - anything but a year since
fashion clothes matches the beginning of the 18th century.

Борис Кон 13.09.2012 18:16

Thank you, tandem, for a guess.

It is interesting that the autograph and (maybe a year), clearly marked on top risunok.Eto clearly seen through a magnifying glass.

Do you think it possible that the engraver so signature on one of his first impressions?

Elek 13.09.2012 20:48

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Сообщение от Boris Cohn (Сообщение 2256321)
It seems that the story is simple, banal, but is directed by the feet, moving the arms, some special charming appeal.


Yes, anything to do with a Shemyakinskimi rats.

Борис Кон 13.09.2012 21:27

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Сообщение от Elek (Сообщение 2257491)
Yes, something to do with a Shemyakinskimi rats.


As just noticed!
:)

Борис Кон 16.09.2012 08:57

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Сообщение от tandem (Сообщение 2257251)
Tinted engraving. Perhaps an illustration.

Autograph-read (of course not on these "photo"), 1501 - anything but a year since
fashion clothes matches the beginning of the 18th century.


Tandem, you amazingly observant

here found in Dürer:

redbor 16.09.2012 09:48

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Сообщение от tandem , 2257251"
1501 - anything but a year since fashion clothes matches the beginning of the 18th century .

Actually the suit claims the least . And the clothes and shoes are consistent with 15 th century.
Here http://top-antropos.com/history/rena...tem/15-costume
  You can see similar suits upper class , and the picture only peddler :)

Борис Кон 16.09.2012 13:40

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Look , gentlemen, on paper
These are my attempts to photograph her
including up to the light
All mobile nokia C52
certainly not so good

would be interesting to know the author
though, most likely it will be difficult - impossible
yet surely gnaw doubt - what is it? Picture - engraving ? ...

Thank you for helping

Игорь Гурьев 16.09.2012 18:23

In style - a typical late 18th - early 19th century.

Likely France.

Борис Кон 16.09.2012 19:07

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Сообщение от Igor Guryev (Сообщение 2261511)
In style - typical of the late 18th - early 19th century.
Likely to France .

You'll have to tell me - the beginning of the 20th.
Paper painfully old.
What year hard ignariruem ?

I am concerned about the status of execution . What is this?
Please fill in the stone slabs points. The engravings I did not remember.
The engravings of different ages - bar . And only.
Or I do not know much about it.

Interested in your opinion .


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