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dmitrys 17.07.2012 13:57

Icon of castings help to assess the authenticity of
 
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Welcome and I hope to help.

The icon is declared as :
Our Lady Joy of All Who Sorrow , 18th century , rare R - 7!
The inscription is not engraved , and the cast of the convex !
Natural patina !
The guarantee of authenticity !
Razmer-132/83

Got it and I like it too well, like fresh . Follow up question ?
PS I have tea in the case.

Thank you.

redbor 17.07.2012 14:17

In the view-there is nothing criminal, casting is not loose, no shells.

Declared in accordance with the directory ..

Well-preserved 18th-century icon for.

For me so - all O.K!

But, of course, you can ask someone more seasoned eye on it.

The forums mednolita or Christianity in the art.

dmitrys 17.07.2012 14:27

Here's a nice Save and strained, both in terms of a common minimum wear and tear, and in terms of patina are all very very nice.
Another two confirmed and will sleep peacefully.

tivat 17.07.2012 15:01

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Сообщение от dmitrys (Сообщение 2171791)
Here's a nice Save and strained, both in terms of a common minimum wear and tear, and in terms of patina are all very very nice.
Another two confirmed and will sleep peacefully.

I see
patina [/URL], casting a weak, a lot of shells.
Replica (IMHO).
Good luck.

dmitrys 17.07.2012 16:22

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Сообщение от tivat (Сообщение 2171821)
I can see
patina[/URL], casting a weak, a lot of shells.
Replica (IMHO).
Good luck.


this banter or serious?
Although the artificial patina of a thought, that's just the experience to identify extremely small.

Pecheneg 17.07.2012 19:19

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Сообщение от dmitrys; 2171731"
Our Lady Joy of All Who Sorrow , 18th century , rare R - 7!
The inscription is not engraved , and the cast of the convex !
Natural patina !
Guarantee authenticity !

Icon true .. I would lip on the 18th century is not rolled , I would attribute it to the 19th century. , Rarity can not see , and as povodela , too , the plot is one of the most extended ones ... Small parts swollen , which is probably a copy of the already finished casting.
IMHO.

tivat 17.07.2012 20:20

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Сообщение от Pecheneg (Сообщение 2172091)
Icon true .. I would lip on the 18th century is not rolled , I would attribute it to the 19th century. , Rarity can not see , and as povodela , too , the plot is one of the most extended ones ... Small details swollen that is likely to have a copy of the finished casting.
IMHO .

dmitrys, Pecheneg, it is painted , it shows. Been doing , of course, makes no sense , but the remake looks like. Here the 19th century :
№ 2

Pecheneg 17.07.2012 20:43

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Сообщение от tivat; 2172121 ']it is painted, it can be seen.[/QUOTE]

As for the color does not argue, can be bad .... I see ..

[QUOTE="tivat; 2172121
to remake it seems.

What is the meaning of fool's head with the remakes, if the 19th century in the original missing?

tivat 17.07.2012 21:10

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Сообщение от Pecheneg (Сообщение 2172131)
As for the color does not argue, can be bad .... I see ..

What is the meaning of fool's head with the remakes, if the 19th century in the original enough?

Chiparusa why pour?
Sell ​​...

redbor 17.07.2012 21:22

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Сообщение от "tivat; 2172121 '
That's the 19th century:

Quotations.
Number 2

This is very different model.
1-I with the engraved letters, 2-I do not tops.
And so, as in the subject line - manufactured in the 18th century, much rarer, and price, respectively, above.
 
Catalog Number: V04-042

tivat 17.07.2012 22:04

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Сообщение от redbor (Сообщение 2172151)
This is a very different model.
1-I with the engraved letters, 2-I do not tops.
And so, as in the subject line - manufactured in the 18th century, much rarer, and price, respectively, above.
 
Catalog Number: V04-042

It seems that this is it.

dmitrys 17.07.2012 22:18

Created a topic in a forum for icons and accomplish your goal here on the results ( do not know how local government refers to external links ).

Held gently on the icon of a simple paper napkin - napkin black. As if the patina with wax ..
At the junction of two seraphim is the trace of solder under the patina - was scrapped when it . I think this speaks in favor of what the icon is clearly not a fake, but the patina , if I understood correctly , suggests a younger age.

Add a post : the first answer to our " true icon of the 18-19 century , it was pictures of the icon on the mednolite . "

Марина13 17.07.2012 22:28

"Scrapping" can be broken <! - ~ 1 ~ -> I think novaya.No so, women's intuition!

dmitrys 18.07.2012 11:05

can indeed be scrapped and break and weld, but the general works such it is not necessary I think.


The restorer of icons said that this script.


Straight to the examination at least take me to live it <! - ~ 1 ~ ->

redbor 18.07.2012 13:55

This icon, all in line.

Collectors cast confirmed what else?
Can there and evaluate.

At mednolite forum, too, can ask.


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