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And where is the picture that?
http://s010.radikal.ru/i313/1207/8d/319c4c6e812b.gif

Of course, there is a sense - do not spread the photos of the picture.
One person will buy (if you buy it), but twenty of forum wit, no known non-buyers, will cause poumnichat in the subject line. Moreover, the louder the proposed name, the more they flock to it!
In this situation, I'm sure many sellers lose the desire to spread the serious stuff here. And buyers are also arranged in different ways: one nicer in person and buy the thing on the public auction, the other more willing to acquire it for the money directly from the owners and nothing without advertising ...
In support of his views suggest wishing to return a couple of years ago in this section and see how much the level of sentences. That, at least immediately accessible from the first - one hundred and first page. June 2010go: Vakhrameev, Klimenko, Makovsky, Golovin, Gerasimov, Fonvizin Verey, Survage ...
And because the market itself has not changed much! Hence, we can assume that the reason in the formulation of this case on the forum.

Clearly, this is contrary to the rules of the forum, but why these rules are not changed? In order not to look like a sort of non-constructive critic, will offer proposals to legalize the practice of expensive things, like the one in question in this thread. At the same time, in parallel to send photos of the administration to confirm validity, so to speak, "their claims."
Maybe it will add a bit of administration work, but for the benefit of such an important section will go for sure!

This is bad advice - to recommend to violate forum rules.
Put please, photographs of the subject.

But the meanings of any possible head and share a lot .

Well, you gave examples of the proposals in this section of the June 2010go : And I can give you an example as there are many times tried to offer a well-known forgery - aged lap without a birochkami stretchers on the back - there is also sounding names were , but as soon as the photos of these things, everyone understood that it was all a fake cover those " from Chernigov ".

I would not recommend anyone to violate forum rules.
I just suggested to think about that for the good of the cause, these rules change slightly.

As for the alleged flow falshakov, it is unlikely to greatly increase: REAL buyers of expensive things, it's usually - people are competent and capable to determine the intended purchase. In addition, I offered to send along photos of the Administration for prior approval.

I also think that the situation will be regulated naturally. People who tried to sell the photos without the trash and seeing a complete lack of interest in it, will quickly realize this unpromising classes.

Personally for myself any potential problems with this I do not see. With many participants of the forum, whose opinion I value, the sign in person. Prepravit can easily picture them in a personal thing, which I doubt, and their views of the bear for themselves than from reading dozens of unknown whose hilarious comments that, though uplifting, the cause of truth are not very ...

And actually, I would like to hear from the holders of expensive things, out (or feared to spread) them here.
After all, serious buyers on this forum quite a lot, and severity of sentences far behind. All agree? So must be a reason!

This strong mind when preparing the rules. Forum is not only someone's commercial interests , but also has an educational function . In his examples, people learn . If a person tries to reach an audience of thousands , the return is required to comply with the rules. Otherwise it will be empty , " the mysterious " themes , hints , without prices , and photos. The rest need it?

The rules, as I guess the reality of preparing for a long time and during that time has changed.
However, ready to agree with the fact that on any level stuff will be offered here, the administration, as they say, neither hot nor cold. If, indeed, the "educational function" section of the a priori more important than this, then I have nothing to argue.

There are no innovations that would suit absolutely everyone. The thing is that the changes were positive IN GENERAL.
Irrespective of the photo sale, why not enter the list of participants who tried to sell 100%proven falshakov? What is not "educational function"? Maybe someone without the intention of trying to do it, then let yourself blame in the end, with every going to happen. As they say, once a ... - not my fault. And if a few Seen in this, then - a trend ...

On the example of the topic: In my opinion, the thing described is quite informative.
You can go to the section of artists and prices, look at these sample results Sudeikin and if you feel that you can about "fit" is to contact the seller for a photo, perhaps out of delicacy, first inquiring the price.

I repeat, do not urge to turn this approach into a regular practice, and allow it only for SERIOUS expensive things.

What's the problem ? You should not have it - you can not shine here photos " SERIOUS expensive things ."

In my opinion, it is clear that I had in mind things that may be offered to other parties without the pictures , just like in this thread and me in this case it is not.

And you , Cyril , do not want to see more good things suggested in this thread ? Or do you see any other reason that the proposal in this segment is lagging behind demand, except that I called ?

Here , though , I have laid out an example of a picture Zarubina :
http://forum.artinvestment.ru/showthread.php?t=152591
A small , insignificant thing ( although, too, not two pennies ) and, thanks to good people , lay out the scans from the exhibition catalog , the discussion was completed successfully .
But , you see, amateurs shitting in other people's themes is missing and , after reading this " showdown " , the holders of the really serious things are unlikely to have a desire to put them here for everyone to see .
First of all, I personally see this proposal justify expensive items without photos .

Lord , show the picture already . Alla elderly person could be mistaken - especially " given the current development of printing in the West ." In addition , the widow of Sudeikina raprodavala relatively recently - about 25 years ago - all that she had for just pennies . Of course since then much water has flowed under the bridge , but still ...

From my little desires that depends . Yes, and some kind of " demand " I do not see much here . Demand for what? At the masterpieces? They are shown , offer , sell ?
No, there are, of course, the "requests" of the type of or of.


I have 4 years of presence on the forum selling real masterpieces seen , it seems , two.

AlexSpb, if someone is unstable psyche (or the first day of living in this world ), it is better to entrust this business professionals ... I'm surprised your thoughts in the context of this forum .. As I have admired many times before, is competent, interesting collection of experts and scholars , that 's what you have dared to offer , just at the root is no good .. Talking on the fingers ( the visual subject ) even as we can , but write - in any way .. You are my "deeply taken aback " ...

I for my views expressed in this thread, very much so do not try to hold. Any of my vital principles for which would be prepared to fight to the end, they are not reflected. Although in a personal and telephone already, honestly, has received assurances that all people share my position, just do not consider it necessary to break the spear in the debate, believing that to any changes it still will not.
Maybe so, but since I started this conversation probably should, if possible, try to answer all messages.
I am the way, to write their messages are a very responsible attitude and all their thoughts in them trying to convey is clear.
But, even re-read several times the last text from the NATA NOVA, staying in a certain perplexity about its meaning ...
I have, I suppose, "fragile psyche"?
I am, I suppose, "the first day I live in the world"?
What "business" and how "experts" better "hand off"?
What have I, "I venture to suggest?" Or maybe "assume (?)"

And this is just a wire transfer from an unknown language:
Although, to a form of fault is probably not reasonable, is not a forum philologists. Well, it happens, people got excited "in his polemical fervor," the words being said, thinking ahead ...
Following the logic of the transition to the personality of the NATA NOVA, I probably would have advised her to put aside emotion for the communal kitchen, even though doing so is certainly not going to - I am, nevertheless, a no gentleman!
But that this can be answered, too, is not quite imagine ...
The overall message of her emotional message, like. clear: a well-known technique of forum - someone spraying mud, try "vystelitsya" before the others, enlisted, so their support.
Only, pray tell, NATA NOVA, what does the content of the topic?
Can you believe it, I'm better than you know what competent and knowledgeable people are here. And as everyone who has helped me personally with the attribution is very difficult to do things the things I remember the names!
Just maybe, you, NATA NOVA, you want to say that no other meetings that are worth far less flattering epithets on this forum do not? Those ASSEMBLY, because of which, as I wrote, the owners of the serious things and are afraid to offer them here. Please answer!

Okay, spent all of the fuse on the poor girl, on Cyril Syzran nothing left! Accomplish your goal and slightly to the full respect (I'm not a fool - spitting against the wind <! - ~ 1 ~ ->)
Evidence of the presence here willing to sell the good stuff is that as soon as the announcement of the purchase should be something concrete and substantial, almost always immediately follows the proposal in response. One can only wonder how many more offers in PM are potential buyers. Hence it is easy to conclude that, just not interested in the first vendors to spread these things under SELL, knowing almost certainly that this will result in a completely unnecessary they discuss these things.

By the way, the way to sling mud at other people's things, this is a purely Russian specificity. At the Salon, perhaps, not taken hold in the open scandal by attacking things competitors, both on this forum, but in his ear all around "good people" of them will nashepchut.
But for the first time being on TEFAF in Maastricht, was, I remember. struck by the abundance of the type of case stands, "Kandinsky and the Environment", "Malevich and His disciples." In this case all just polite smiles: "Yes, there - and we have now - the present. Choose what you like more, the owner - a gentleman". In no case do not claim that this approach is more honest, or more correctly, just brought it as an example of the so-called "corporate ethics".
Well, what is there particularly to decipher? Well, perhaps some monetary value ... well, let's say, five or ten thousand dollars. For some, money is very large, for others not, but you will agree, it is still unpleasant if write about the thing is that after five years otmoeshsya. After all, it is well known that from the notorious libel defense more difficult. As there have Aleshkovskii Hughes: "Marx's doctrine is omnipotent because it is WRONG!"

P.S. It seems not graphomaniac and not too often write on this forum, but sometimes allow myself, as they say, let the brakes ... <! - ~ 1 ~ ->

AlexSpb, meaning the person, suggesting the possibility of sales, " according to the description ," without visual images, fearing panic Open discussion ( discussion ).
Nonsense (IMHO)
Nothing personal and no emotion . <! - ~ 1 ~ ->
Sit back , friend! <! - ~ 7 ~ ->