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Tana 24.01.2009 23:12

Opinion on the level of art
 
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really want to hear an authoritative opinion on this film, rather interested in your opinion about the level of painting:
(Work, 1944)

Tana 24.01.2009 23:43

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a couple of fragments, I want to delete the photos tomorrow
(I like it and that some are confused, that's more interesting to someone else's opinion to hear)

Евгений 25.01.2009 06:59

Tana, And who is the author? Dimensions?

Tana 25.01.2009 12:16

$ 65 * 80, by John Wheatley

Кирилл Сызранский 25.01.2009 12:22

Tana, and that for technology? We have not seen oil.
But generally nice, nice bunch of chrysanthemums later. Even their sentyabrinkami called, if I'm not mistaken. :)

Tana 25.01.2009 13:22

Cyril Syzransky is the oil, but it kakoto "transparent", that's me too, first they liked (like flowers), and then looked carefully and saw (the right side of the bouquet) on the fragment and the overall picture shows an artist paint it a couple of leaves and this shading is visible (at first thought it was just dirt).

Кирилл Сызранский 25.01.2009 13:42

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Сообщение от Tana (Сообщение 201216)
artist paint it a couple of leaves and this shading is visible

So? Visible and invisible. It's so bad?

Tana 25.01.2009 19:20

Cyril Syzransky, still do not like it when you look and see how some pieces of "sketch" shine, as if unfinished, such works are not for show, more like an amateur or incompletely (though the flowers themselves, warm von liked).
  the same line of the table on the left below 0.5 cm, than the right, that's all this is confusing.
We thought that the museum had never stared, now interesting to go back and see imnenno so interesnovalo view the forum.
I wonder how often such incidents have known hudozhnikov (I think may be in the sketches, sketches), but in completing the work hardly (although it may be the impressionists, non-conformists), but a realist, I think not.

uriart 25.01.2009 19:45

Tana, often unregistered plots paintings are part of the composition picture itself.
Suppose that you are not scared. This is normal.
The work itself is very pleasant and likable.

dedulya37 25.01.2009 20:10

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Сообщение от uriart (Сообщение 201456)
often unregistered plots paintings are part of the composition picture itself.

Absolutely agree with you. Here are some examples.

Tana 25.01.2009 20:20

Cyril Syzransky, uriart, dedulya37 thanks for your comments!
  I do not know how to call it, but it happens sometimes "found", initially enjoyed painting, especially as hrizantemki written, color, brought home, and of course, was to look at (I love to deal with all the minutest details) and it was then, and noticed this "roughness table and sketched parts and as soon as they saw everything, now can only see them (if it would be more understandable sketch )!!!!
Here are unregistered land is somehow understandable, but the "sketch" and a translucent layer, I think it is as though he wrote and crossed out the written picked up as a neakuratno looks for realism ....( of course be at the forefront, impressionism , non-conformism, contemporary art)
In general, rarely doubt like to wait until the dust settles impressions (day 2) and then did not regret the purchase, but here in the evening puzzled, morning woke up and saw only a sketch (on the photo it is less visible) in the gallery, she stood in the little dark spot so that nothing could be seen ...

As for the author's work, he no longer held administrative posts, was the curator of the gallery and taught art and studied briefly, one of them carried portraits is in the National Portrait Gallery in London (now with this picture, I compared the signature, such as too is not quite similar, at my picture is too "spelled out"), just looked at what was sold at auction, the signatures in general are very different, because somewhere in block letters is written, somewhere only printed the initials in the gallery is more like a cursory signature, but I just though the exam on calligraphy go, so every year, and emerged bearing, the same signature on my picture altogether unlike anything one of the seen (the picture was purchased galereey at auction)

So given all this, returned it today, I do not want to keep gnawing worm of doubt. "
Many thanks for your feedback !!!!:)
Well when in a "difficult" moment is someone close even "virtually" to discuss all doubt.: Shy:

Sandro 25.01.2009 20:28

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Сообщение от Tana (Сообщение 201486)
So given all this, returned it today, I do not want to keep gnawing worm of doubt ".

That's right! I did not like the picture ...: shy:
Less (by number) but better (quality)!

Tana 25.01.2009 20:34

dedulya37 looked at your sketches from the boat, and - like them, and there is no doubt!
 
in your sketches all the "right" look, a different matter if the sketch was on another boat depicted beside or shape, and then its a sketch artist, but the image is all the same transmission and it seems to me "spoil" the big picture, preventing perceptual, t . k. see what happened before the final version.

agreed that when the "how-to and" yes "and how-to and" no "- probably the best way not to suffer and recover ...
There are so creative meal are not only the artists!! : shy:
Thank you all for your help !!!:)

Артём 26.01.2009 11:54

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Сообщение от Sandro (Сообщение 201496)
Less (by number) but better (quality)!

Tana, painstaking work of student, although pleasant. If this is realism, but it is realism, he pulls over a certain amount of dogma by which we assess the quality and realism. Timid possession of material, bad picture! Sorry, that sharp.

Tana 26.01.2009 15:51

Thank you, Artem, that's because I felt that the work unprofessionally executed, as an amateur.


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