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tatysha 01.05.2012 23:01

Oranienbaum help identify the author and can be called!
 
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There's a picture of the house, none of the household does not know the author and title, can anyone has information on the forum?

presumably lost from the museum in Oranienbaum

Игорь Гурьев 02.05.2012 04:52

I personally do not understand even a century: whether late Baroque of the 18th, or the eclectic second half of the 19th.


The pose - almost like a "Widow" Fedotov.


At least this is what that kind of material?

Toinen 02.05.2012 07:09

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is lost from the museum

Passed!
<! - ~ 7 ~ ->

Дилетант 02.05.2012 07:40

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presumably lost from the museum in Oranienbaum

Tatysha, carefully review the traffic pattern.
And if you find there: inventories, stickers, stamps, marks or inscriptions, relating to the period of the museum store pictures - immediately give up <! - ~ 7 ~ ->!
(Katz advised to give up ...)

Dogel 02.05.2012 08:29

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Frame is good, the canvas needs restoration, photo sohranyuka

Дилетант 02.05.2012 09:21

If without the inherent nasty ernichestva me - a pretty picture . This is evident even laid your photos. (Please : take a photo , please do not phone and decent camera. Picture deserves to spend on it a little more effort and time).
The website of the Ministry of Culture has a page " Cultural values ​​- the victims of war ". There - a list of things lost , including those of the palaces and museums. Unfortunately, photos are available on most products , but to look right.
And check back on the inventory numbers. In this case you should be aware that if the family legend is true - to inform the Oranienbaum you will be required . By the way, when an inv of the museum . № ( or stripped of traces ), you can send photos directly to the Oranienbaum ...
Good luck!

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Check the list of museums, and I also recommended . No there is Oranienbaum. (Oranienbaum something, fortunately, during the Great Patriotic War was not sacked ...)
Now look , " Catalogue of works of art and antiques, are wanted ." Well, if there is no - you can not rush ZDAVATSTSA <! - 7 ~ ~ -> <! - 7 ~ ~ -> <! - ~ 7 ~ -> !

tatysha 02.05.2012 11:10

about the museum Oranienbaum speak the words of my grandmother, because
painting after the war was found in those places.


Inventory number on the back of the present with regard to technology implementation - oil on canvas, watercolor (just from the words of my grandmother) live painting itself is not seen.


Photo'll post better later

Дилетант 02.05.2012 11:58

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Inventory number on the back there,


Tatisha, photograph it, please.
And yet - in words, what is written there, and why?

Sincerely, dabbler.

tatysha 04.05.2012 10:31

Amateur, unfortunately I did not photograph the number of failed, bore a picture of his time in the Hermitage, and there packed . Grandmother to any does not want to unpack it, but from memory said that at the very front of the frame to have the number 74 written in black with something thinly . behind the white square paper pasted on it and about the size of two and a half cm Number 213 ( maybe 215).
PS The Hermitage was told that the picture is similar to the work of Fedotov , but apart from him was another 8 masters, who wrote in the same style , ie, maybe she was painted by one of them . Who are these 8 people are not told.

uriart 04.05.2012 11:27

tatysha, direct and secret Madrid (pitreskogo) the court, any!

Grandmother to any does not want to unpack!

Baby talk!

Дилетант 04.05.2012 11:30

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Amateur unfortunately take a picture of the number I could not,

It is a pity ...
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in the Hermitage said that the picture is similar to the work of Fedotov, but in addition he had another 8 masters, who wrote in the same style

Eight? Why is eight, not ten or fourteen? The mystery, however ...
Unfortunately, your photos can only be very roughly even identify, but merely suggest the time of painting: 1840 - 1860.
 I would like to still see the picture of the general form and - if possible - fragments.
By the way, if the picture when viewed from GE employees are not alarmed, then no marks, evidence of its former membership of a museum collection - is not enough. So, guess what the tea leaves, it is necessary, do not fear <! - ~ 1 ~ -> picture carefully removed from the frame, and attributed to the Russian Museum for examination. (Believe me, stories about "muleny" that allegedly charged for the examination avid art historians, for the most part - absolute nonsense. Leave these stories by the fireplace on the conscience of "Croesus," which paid a similar sum on demand. Ay-y, the oligarchs! Chu ! silent ... hiding ... all diamonds sewn into a pillow ...)
A portrait of something you have, apparently, good, and the prospect of authorship, in my opinion - certainly is. If you want, I can advise. free
I wish good luck, dabbler.

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Granny in any do not want to unpack!

Baby talk!

And my grandmother - they takovskie!
(Just you - not my grandmother, and that's in doubt <! - ~ 1 ~ -> ...)

tatysha 04.05.2012 17:06

Thank you very much for your advice and help =)
seems to be in the Russian Museum requested $ 400 for examination.

My grandmother did not give was because I thought , they say the picture will be evaluated , say 450 dollars, and for the examination will give the 400 .. think worth the risk ?)

and that you helped us with the picture , we need a good photo or something else? <! - ~ 3 ~ ->

Борисович 04.05.2012 18:24

It is more expensive frame.

Do not you wonder what you have on hand?

And in vain began his post with the words "allegedly lost from the museum in Oranienbaum."
You do what?

tatysha 04.05.2012 22:17

The picture still is not mine, and my grandmother.
As she asked for - and wrote

K-Maler 04.05.2012 23:25

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A portrait of something you have, apparently, good, and the prospect of authorship, in my opinion - certainly is.



In the costume, it looks like the image of actress, singer, maybe ...
The dress is too short to represent the ladies.
Perhaps this is a suit ....
something like Suzanne ...


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