How to create and develop the infrastructure of art?
 

Topic name may not be entirely successful, but think it is better not happen.

Constant thread from one topic to another suggests that the Russian art market is either weak, or it at all. As they say over there in the West or the East is even better.

About the East, in particular, was mentioned in connection with the sensational buying for $ 250 million Cezanne. But how then noticed Pavel, not the fact that the picture will generally be put on public display and easy-Qataris will be given a chance to marvel at such an important painting, and indeed the evidence of purchase of anything else, as a that money out there very very very much, all the most expensive is bought on line the most expensive art.

Is this the development of art in this country? I would say that there is not, although as a side effect because of the hype - a small percentage of Qataris and other Gulf residents look into the internet to ask who is Cezanne. Of this small percentage an even smaller percentage of can more generally interested in art and would look and read more and more. This tiny percentage, and there is hope for future changes.

The other side of the coin.

A country where everyone knows everything about art. Country, "in which you are surrounded by art from the top, bottom and sides," as told to me by a friend of the Arab - Italy. In Italy, everything is very bad with the economy and therefore art out there, not that does not develop, there is no money to restore it, even priceless, which from the top, bottom and sides

Paradox.

Watched a heart-rending, which interviewed various Italian cultural figures, a selection of characters that is was a great All were primarily interested enthusiasts (about the same warehouse, and a sister Prokhorov - Irina), but not those who sit in the workplace, getting paid and then could not care less. But the conclusion was very tragic - no art, no culture can not be the development of society can not progress, the evolution is impossible. That art is a special matter, which gives a special boost, or awakens in the minds and hearts, without which we would have remained primitive creatures.

That is, money for the arts are needed. Money are public and are private. But what should be in the first place, and that in the second?
As it should be balanced and how to awaken interest as to involve people as motivate them? I would like to hear from members of the forum. How do you see this situation?

Thanks in advance.

A good name of the topic.

artcol, please, are also set out your ideas.
I know you have a lot of them.

I would like to issue a discussion format, where the truth must appear <! - ~ 1 ~ ->

It's not just about money.
And maybe not even them.
That is,
what we were.
Money is given - and in the end?
Bullshit (as they say on the forum).

We need to develop culture in general.

Ideas on what? How to attract money ?

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This is a very blurry. The culture of consumption of spirits ? Sex ? Driving a /m ? What?

It is clear that the money should be accompanied by brains, but that in any area , so not only in the arts .
How to create and develop the infrastructure of art ?
I agree . But I would like to narrow the debate in the art is , first -topic forum , and secondly the vast majority of professional participants of the forum is aware of the problems firsthand , and as it is going through them daily.

It is better to agree on terms.
culture
art
plastic Arts
Visual arts

Speaking for the last - that would agree . And if at all - it is not certain that
Posted 1 minute
What is it? Showrooms ?

Art of any trends and genres , which, for example, is exposed on the Ven . Biennale , Paper , etc., sold at Tefaf , Christie's , Sotheby's , Phillips de Pury . Is that better ?
I'm afraid that if this list of terms that I myself have to climb in the Dictionary of Contemporary and write out all names , listing the latest trends , which do not come across every day , but nevertheless, there are a great and valued in the range of specialists .

Personally, my opinion is : how do not resuscitate a corpse - no good turn out. By Mr another Frankinshteyn . Therefore it is better not to touch.

Also - what does it do? (My question to the course as part of your post , and not at all).

Ooooh , what pessimism is not expected <! - ~ 3 ~ ->

Gelman won the " corpse" is busy , there are some results , he does everything correctly or not a secondary issue . But the reaction to his actions have, good or bad, attracts attention. So the corpse , still not quite dead. <! - ~ 1 ~ ->

In general, even the response to this issue speaks volumes : for almost an hour 72 views , answered only two (as is always the most active member), and present at the forum:

Well, get another Frankinshteyn - will be a reaction to it <! - ~ 1 ~ ->

In Gelman's all this activity has the character of cargo. Well, self-presentation through these activities, budgets, etc. I do not know, I would not refer to it.

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I will not tell you the entire Odessa, as he says, only for the Volga region.
In 2001, unable to find what to do, I decided to pilot an experimental way to find out what a Russian art. Brand-ie ("Russian Art"), and filling - some not. But something has to be! Tradition, the names and schools - all of this is (recently). As a result of this work, I concluded, in the Volga region there is only one artist, the k-th that brand fit. The rest, or big or too late, I undertook the research. And in other parts of the case is not better. So, speaking of the rights of the COP insignificance of Soviet culture (in many senses) and its derivatives. Yes, it was the scale (in the industrial sense), but it burned down on the job and the ashes scattered to the winds.

Maybe when the situation is critical (I think in this we agree ), try to do something . One Frankenstein, Frankenstein, second , and before you know the third will be a hero . Unless Gelman , who? If there is no way he does, then how do you want? That there are some ready-made recipes and instructions, which he consciously not does , ignores , blocks , etc. Just want to say that I have sympathy for him do not feel , but for his activism and work I respect . Because even this is rare nowadays, everyone is looking for easy ways.
I repeat the question: If you do not Gelman , who? To whom should refer to in your opinion?

H- yeah ....

So do I.

As Newton said (I think ): I was standing on the shoulders of his great predecessors , and therefore able to look further.
Pusternak too, in this sense is expressed , " In the culture we rely on the previous generation."

What can rely on generation of artists and creators in general ( Russian or any other Arab ), to the e - shaped and is formed in the recent past /future. After answering this question is already possible to understand where to invest money.

The main thing - the Spirit . None of the Spirit - there is no soul , only physical . shell - Frankinsheyn .

"The culture of consumption of hard liquor " - a Soviet newspaper strains , as, indeed, "driving a /m " - possovetsky .
Journalists have the word "culture " for the eye candy and even used to raise the debate a step further .
"Proper use of spirits ," " correct driving a /m " - it would be more appropriate , but duller . <! - ~ 7 ~ ->