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iside 26.03.2012 15:43

How is the ranking and the prestige of the museum?
 
Ladies and gentlemen!

The following problem, I would like to hear your opinion.
For example, I was sitting at on another planet (for those interested: this is very far from Moscow) and thinking about how to organize a museum exhibition in the home of Uncle Sam.
Where to start?
Of course I know about the ten most famous museums - but this is not the case, what about the other museums, which are a huge number, and of whom have never heard? How do you know which one is worth, what not? Overtake them all (or part) - is not possible, we must do something in the preparation of pre-trial detention facilities Internet.

If you look at artfacts.net and from there go on all the links there for a month of intensive work and, again, as a result - get to the site of the museum, Sun O to look to understand how this place is considered to be attractive to buyers of art and critics. How to compare and understand the difference between the prestige of two or more museums? Again, say, the prestige of institutions associated with the prestige of those who put up there. But if I compare the names of one hundred new artists of whom had never heard of, like this deal?

I would like to hear specific ideas on the subject. Thank you in advance. <! - ~ 1 ~ ->

artcol 26.03.2012 15:54

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Сообщение от iside (Сообщение 2039521)
Ladies and gentlemen!

The following problem, I would like to hear your opinion.
For example, I was sitting at on another planet (for those interested: this is very far from Moscow) and thinking about how to organize a museum exhibition in the home of Uncle Sam.
Where to start?
Of course I know about the ten most famous museums - but this is not the case, what about the other museums, which are a huge number, and of whom have never heard? How do you know which one is worth, what not? Overtake them all (or part) - is not possible, we must do something in the preparation of pre-trial detention facilities Internet.

If you look at artfacts.net and from there go on all the links there for a month of intensive work and, again, as a result - get to the site of the museum, Sun O to look to understand how this place is considered to be attractive to buyers of art and critics. How to compare and understand the difference between the prestige of two or more museums? Again, say, the prestige of institutions associated with the prestige of those who put up there. But if I compare the names of one hundred new artists of whom had never heard of, like this deal?

I would like to hear specific ideas on the subject. Thank you in advance. <! - ~ 1 ~ ->

Method:
1) takes a list of reference artists
2) each - a list of exhibitions in public museums
3) b-th picture is clearer

Кирилл Сызранский 26.03.2012 16:08

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Сообщение от iside; 2039521"
to overtake them all (or part) - is not possible , we must do something in the preparation of pre-trial detention facilities Internet.

Exhibits in the museum can see - on the number and quality of them.
You go to the site and watch.
Here I saw , for example , this and already know - there is a serious matter delivered , although Ponce not even the capital .

iside 26.03.2012 16:13

artcol, Cyril Syzran, thank you comrades!
I think in the next few days I have any specific questions than institutions, so I will write them here.
I think everyone will be interested.

Кирилл Сызранский 26.03.2012 16:41

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Сообщение от artcol (Сообщение 2039601)
1) takes the reference list of artists

2) each - a list of exhibitions in public museums

3) b-th picture is clearer

A complex way.

artcol 26.03.2012 16:58

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzran (Сообщение 2039671)
complex way .

On the contrary . Moreover - my method will give the desired result , because there is a correlation between the level of fame of the artist (I think - this is known ) and the level of the museum (which is necessary to determine ), where he found it possible to exhibit .

Most of the practice of expert studies , and skill mastery is not known to spend on drink <! - ~ 1 ~ ->

Кирилл Сызранский 26.03.2012 17:01

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Сообщение от artcol (Сообщение 2039701)


On the contrary.
Most of the practice of expert studies

Well, I do not know ...

Maybe I just do not understand what a "reference Artists".
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artcol 26.03.2012 17:10

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzran (Сообщение 2039721)
Well, I do not know ...
Maybe I just do not understand what a " reference Artists". <! - ~ 7 ~ ->

Well, for example , Isis wants to make an exhibition of Chagall. Then, the reference will be Soutine , Picasso , Modigliani , but not Tsereteli , for example, or VM Sidorov <! - ~ 1 ~ ->

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Reference favor those individuals or social groups , the person on whose assessment is guided by their own perception of events and phenomena , as well as himself, whose opinion appears to him important in planning and implementing their own actions.

....

The concept of " reference group " was introduced in the 30s of XX century. American psychologist G. Haymenom , who found that the value of the individual are determined not so much the standards of those groups to which a person actually serves as the standards groups to which she feels belongs to or aspires to belong .

Wladzislaw 26.03.2012 18:01

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Кирилл Сызранский 26.03.2012 19:22

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Сообщение от artcol; 2039731"
Well, for example , Isis wants to make an exhibition of Chagall. Then, the reference will be Soutine , Picasso , Modigliani , but not Tsereteli , for example, or VM Sidorov <! - ~ 1 ~ ->

And why , if you want to do an exhibition Chagall exhibition to look at the " reference " Soutine , Picasso and Modigliani ?
That is exactly 5 years ago, then- Antonova anniversary of the Pushkin Museum in Russia has opened an unprecedented exhibition of Modigliani. That we did not have much longer and will not, I think.
And as the exhibition Modigliani conditional " Isis " can orient with Chagall ?

artcol 26.03.2012 19:40

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzran (Сообщение 2039861)
And what if you want to do an exhibition Chagall exhibition to look at the " reference " Soutine , Picasso and Modigliani ?
That is exactly 5 years ago, then- Antonova anniversary of the Pushkin Museum in Russia has opened an unprecedented exhibition of Modigliani. That we did not have much longer and will not, I think.
And as the exhibition Modigliani conditional " Isis " can orient with Chagall ?

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ak know which one is worth , what not?
If the organizers of the exhibition Modigliani considered it possible to hold it in Pushkin - this means that the level corresponds to the Pushkin Modigliani. That is, He will not bring reputational damage to the brand Modelyani .

If Chagall in terms of recognition is approximately equal to Modigliani , then for it to be acceptable levels of Pushkin .

I think Isis is clear what I mean.

Кирилл Сызранский 26.03.2012 21:51

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Сообщение от artcol; 2039891"
I think Isis is clear what I mean.

I am sure that - yes. It is, I think psoobrazitelnee me.
Although the question-what was it worded as follows:
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Сообщение от iside; 2039521"
Of course I know about the ten most famous museums - but this is not the case, what about the other museums, which are a huge number, and of whom have never heard? How do you know which one is worth, what not? Overtake them all (or part) - is not possible, we must do something in the preparation of pre-trial detention facilities Internet.

From the Pushkin Museum in Moscow, it is clear and exhibits Soutine, Picasso and Modigliani, Chagall - also, and carry them to something other than the museum nowhere else.
From what some museums in Seattle, Houston, San Diego or Filadelfio too, there in the local museum exhibitions on all sorts of people walking.
And here, for example, the Boston Museum Isabella Stewart Gardner, the notorious because a large theft in 1990 (then stole the "Concert" by Vermeer, three Rembrandts, Manet, Degas and others)?
Or a Cambridge Harvard University art museums as well? Or, really quite some exotic Toledo Museum of Art, but not that of Toledo, not Spanish by El Greco, and Toledo in Ohio, although it has paintings by El Greco? Then what to do?

artcol 26.03.2012 22:42

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzran (Сообщение 2040061)
I am sure that - yes.
It is, I think I posoobrazitelnee.

I think - will understand.
We do not know anything specifically about tselyaz and objectives of Isis, guess what's the point?
I only shared methods.
By the method of questions?
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Кирилл Сызранский 26.03.2012 23:06

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Сообщение от artcol (Сообщение 2040131)
I just shared methodology.
By the method of questions?
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Again - your technique - is scratching his left ear with his right hand.
Or, if you want, try to wear pants over his head.
My opinion is, IMHO, as they say.
<! - ~ 7 ~ ->

artcol 26.03.2012 23:24

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzran (Сообщение 2040151)
I repeat - your technique - is scratching his left ear with his right hand.
Or, if you want, try to wear pants over his head.

And in fact have something to say?
<! - ~ 7 ~ ->

Method is not mine, I am not the author, although I use.


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