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Николай Испания 23.03.2012 11:29

Paintings from private collections in Spain
 
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Good afternoon.
In connection with the economic crisis in Europe and in particular
in Spain , many sell works of art from
their private collections.
We can offer you a picture of the Spanish
painters such as Dali , Picasso , Miro , etc.
Russian artists Malevich , Popova . Also willing to find
paintings found in Spain under the order.
Details of person.

Konstantin 23.03.2012 12:53

The proposal is very abstract, are taken to make concrete proposals.
All the more so :
1) The work shown is questionable .
2) It is interesting to look at Malevich and Popova them and the world - it is not so much, and only then Spain.

Show here or send a personal e-mail if you do not do this within two or three days, this post bude removed.

Евгений 23.03.2012 20:37

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paintings from private collections in Spain

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Featured work is questionable .

Constantine, these letters come to many members of the art market on a quarterly basis ..
 ".. The famous paintings by European masters from private collections . Picasso, Monet, Renoir, Chagall, Goya and others. Each picture is accompanied by a certificate of authenticity issued by the most authoritative international institutions.
For catalog items available for sale please contact us at .... "
Cheaters uniquely , can be transferred immediately to the topic : " Beware of fake paintings !"http://forum.artinvestment.ru/showthread.php?t=7665

Николай Испания 23.03.2012 23:45

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It is interesting to look at Malevich and Popova them and the world-it is not so much

Malevich, Suprematism - 1915 - 45,9 x 40 cm.
- Oil on Canvas

Popov, Still live - 1914 - 88,5 x 66 cm.
- Oil on Canvas

Both paintings are certified, certificates: Patricia Railing

Николай Испания 24.03.2012 00:57

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offer a very abstract, are taken to make concrete proposals.

I apologize for the abstraction of all the participants of the forum, wrote the first thing that came.

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Fraudsters uniquely, can be transferred immediately to the topic: "Beware of fake paintings!"

Why is it so with the shoulder, because you also Guru "Guru, in the strict sense, is not a teacher, transmitting any information, and those who guide and nourish students Awakening. (Wikipedia)" I'm also drawn to the beautiful, though trying to to sell the paintings, and you instead direct where and to whom such a scale might suggest I'm not afraid of the word, Masterpieces, once in the scammers (((

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Featured work is questionable.

what kind of work you have raised doubts:
Sleep young Narcissus, Salvador Dali's work 120 x 120 oil is cataloged in a tree for Descharnes n º 1518,
Bust of Woman (Dora March), the work of Pablo Picasso 55.3 x 35.5 oil on canvas
certificate of Maya Picasso, catalog Zervos Vol. XI page 84, or
Portrait of Paloma, works by Pablo Picasso 55 x 45 oil on canvas, catalog Zervos Vol. XV page 176.
and what the existence, identity, location, or to any other.

K-Maler 24.03.2012 01:42

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Dali, Picasso, Miro, etc.


According to the type represented by the picture you do not like the work of these artists.
I rely on anything: they have no inherent tone of these artists ...
which is always "shines" not even a particularly good work big labels.

Николай Испания 24.03.2012 02:20

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According to the type represented by a picture you do not like the work of these artists. I rely on anything : they have no inherent tone of these artists ... which is always " shines " not even a particularly good work big labels.

I do not doubt for a moment in your feelings and knowledge of the works of these masters, but facts are stubborn things , take a picture of Retrato de Paloma, the extreme right in the first message, the picture that I attach (even tried to indicate with arrows ) , we can see the master, Pablo Picasso painting Retrato de Paloma, which is not " shine " can just picture black and white, very well, and a girl.

24.03.2012 04:23

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Popov , Still live - 1914 - 88,5 x 66 cm. - Oil on Canvas

This picture is a fake - Popov is a compilation of known works Popova called "Violin ," 1915 , 88.5 x 70.5 cm located in a worthy place in the Tretyakov Gallery .

Nicholas Spain, look at the photo of the original. You should notice a significant difference in skill .

Toinen 24.03.2012 09:54

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where and who might offer such a scale, I'm not afraid of the word, masterpieces



An ideal place - Opening Day in Ishmael

Николай Испания 24.03.2012 13:32

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This picture is a fake - Popov is a compilation of known works Popova called " Violin , " 1915 , 88.5 x 70.5 cm located in a worthy place in the Tretyakov Gallery .

Nicholas Spain, look at the photo of the original. You should notice a significant difference in skill .

OlegTsi I 'm not a big connoisseur of art , you're right pictures are different, but in this case, we did not compare the picture, and two photographs taken at different times by different people in different conditions ( room lighting, etc.). A significant difference in the one case in another canvas plywood (if Google does not lie on the plywood violin is made ). Well, the human factor of the author (not on the wrong foot , not the weather) , it was written a few pictures at the same time and in part similar to each other and many have not been completed. But back to the picture I'm trying to sell, confirmed the authenticity of two independent examination. I enclose a copy of the first pages of examinations made ​​on this picture. And the right of these experts believe it or not, but if not then how else to confirm the authenticity of paintings.

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ideal location - in the opening day of Ishmael

Do you own a point and there you put my masterpieces next to his, or help with a specific place?

Николай Испания 24.03.2012 14:02

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ideal location - in the opening day of Ishmael

Do you own a point and there you put my masterpieces next to his, or help with a specific place?

qwerty 24.03.2012 14:58

Nicholas Spain, you will rest against in vain : the examination of Malevich's Fund - this is proof of fraud , over 20 years of collecting I have not seen any of this work with the expertise of the fund , and he created was , apparently , it was for the purpose of confirming nepodtverzhdaemogo . Among the experts, this fund has no one with an unblemished reputation . The same can be said about Madame railings, although perhaps it is simply not in the subject line . A Picasso- made ​​- just a copy of the varying degrees of similarity with the well-known works.

Николай Испания 24.03.2012 15:55

qwerty, your position is interesting, I delivered to its owners pictures. In your experience, which to date are available at the examination and whose opinions count in question the authenticity of the same Popova, Malevich, if any fund, nor Madame railings, or pigment analysis (as long as I do not have a copy of the certificate I have not pointed out as the owners claim is made DRES. JAGERS) are not evidence.

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and Picasso-made - just a copy of the varying degrees of similarity with the well-known works.

That's right, the whole world a mess everywhere all the hype and copy each other. I'm not suggesting you buy blind for 300 € three paintings wholesale and free shipping. I put information on the forum in the hope, if not to find a potential buyer, having heard the opinions of experts who are on the forum know where to start and who to offer, in addition to Christie's, Sotheby's and similar auction houses. Perhaps on the forum have art dealers operating on the Spanish artist and ready to consider our proposals, if not by Picasso (because the price of one of the exhibited paintings by 2 ml. The other is 25 ml. Is, or for other reasons), then gave his paintings are not less known and more affordable price range. Or, to order the dealer to find other artists, whose paintings are in Spain.
But, unfortunately I hear where the indirect and direct where and fraud charges.

24.03.2012 17:03

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young sleeping narcissus, the work of Salvador Dali 120 x 120 oil is cataloged in a tree for Descharnes n º 1518,


Nicholas Spain, it is no secret that this (or the same), the picture was exhibited at an auction in Zurich Germann Auction in May 2011. An accurate description is:
 
Beschreibung:
 Dalí Salvador 1904 - 1989 E Mehr >> Sleeping Young Narcissus, 1980 Öl auf Holz. H 1200 mm B 1200 mm. Signiert. Literatur: Robert Descharnes, Gilles Néret. Salvador Dalí, The Paintings, Volume II 1946 - 1989. Köln, Benedikt Taschen Verlag, 1994. Nr. 1518, Seite 679, Farbabbildung; Heft. Avantgarde International, English Edition. London, 1980. Seite 16, Farbabbildung. Anmerkung: Das Werk ist im Archiv von Robert Descharnes unter der Nummer h0733_1980 registriert. CHF 300,000 - 350,000. (USD 330 000 - 380000)


The painting, lot number 33 did not find a buyer. But her image is often found on the Internet. You can even order a replica of using this source here:

 http://www.russianpaintings.net/russ...thor=973&p=468

Why this picture is not sold on Germann, not paramount auction? After all, the work of Dali, with a rate of 1 meter 20 cm to 1 meter 20 cm for the lower estimate, and then back, which is usually 20%of the bottom bracket, (275 thousand dollars) would buy a lot.

Of course, I understand that in the "for sale", we speak out about the authenticity. But, I want to see that you offer an unprecedented bouquet of works first-world levels of artists. After all, someone you trusted them, is not it?
I would like to add in response to your words:
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Due to the economic crisis in Europe and particularly in Spain, many sell works of art from their private collections.

Those who owned paintings by such authors are not afraid of any crises. On the contrary, the economic crisis, they multiply their fortunes.

Therefore, this topic causes many skepticism and suspicion. As the British say: "Too good to be true"

P.S. You can ask the owners to provide pictures pictures pictures reverse side with the existing labels, tags, labels and other attributes? Thank you.


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And yet, unfortunately I hear where the indirect and direct where and fraud charges.

No, no, this you No one accuses. Just here it is necessary to understand and help you with your question.

Николай Испания 24.03.2012 19:32

OlegTsi, I am very glad that you have withdrawn with interest on my subject, and your citation is obvious that you are a professional and your opinion is heard, and through you to this theme look more participants.
But back to our topic:

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Nicholas Spain, it is no secret that this (or the same), the picture was exhibited at an auction in Zurich Germann Auction in May 2011. A precise description of such

This proves that this pattern exists, it is podlednikom (if no one doubts the auction house experts Germann Auction) and really put up for sale. I honestly did not know that the picture was exhibited at the auction, apparently I did not feel the need to communicate and it gave me an inflated price, although the sentence was two pictures (picture the second I did not put but I can fix). But thanks to you now able to squeeze them a bit, and other suggestions, thanks.

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picture of a lot number 33 did not find a buyer.

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Why does this picture is not sold on Germann, not paramount auction? After all, the work of Dali, with a rate of 1 meter 20 cm to 1 meter 20 cm for the lower estimate, and then back, which is usually 20%of the bottom bracket, (275 thousand dollars) would buy a lot.

This question is difficult for me to answer, nor could anyone not like, can not it's time, the buyer can wait, can not do an auction at Christie's primary or Sotheby's would have more success.
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But her image is often found on the Internet. You can even order a replica of using this source here:

http://www.russianpaintings.net/russ...thor=973&p=468

The images of many paintings found on the Internet and most probably a copy of the order. At this site 66 pages with different pictures of not only this, perhaps this is due to the popularity of Dali and another proof of the existence of this picture, after all agree is stupid copy of unknown artists and non-existent film. Maybe I do not understand it correctly quotes, correct, if not difficult.
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I would like to add in response to your words:
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Posted by Nicholas Spain View Post
Due to the economic crisis in Europe and particularly in Spain, many sell their works of art from private collections.
Those who owned paintings by such authors are not afraid of any crises. On the contrary, the economic crisis, they multiply their fortunes.

Therefore, this topic causes many skepticism and suspicion. As the British say: "Too good to be true"

I'm not saying that all rushed en masse will get rid of the collections, even partially agree with you that many of the crises in the state are doing, and you just look around, someone multiplies, and whose share it! Maybe I'm wrong but most of the rich by the ruin of others. This retreat, roll forward. Now on the subject, a little background. I am in Spain since 2000 and have seen many became rich on real estate and some of these people invested in the picture. It's no secret that in Spain from the crisis it was very badly damaged the building sector and the people who have this business as a major, trying to support him afloat through other means (who sell paintings, antiques who is who luxuries bought in good times), that such people are now very profitable to buy. That's where we come to the main question of interest to many participants of the forum:

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Of course, I understand that in the "for sale", we speak out about the authenticity. But, I want to see that you offer an unprecedented bouquet of works first-world levels of artists. Someone you trusted them.

I worked as a consultant on issues related to Spain for Russian speaking clients (issues of residence, investments, buying real estate, etc.), and one of these pictures I was asked to sell one of the builders, which I helped with the translation. That something like this, unfortunately I have no experience selling paintings, so I went to see you on the forum, as they say knowledge and experience cherpnut if you are of course applicable.

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OlegTsi,
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P.S. You can ask the owners to provide pictures pictures pictures reverse side with the existing labels, tags, labels and other attributes ? Thank you .

I will try within the next week to get photos of paintings from all sides, yet there are any nuances or subtleties of which I have to ask, please write . Particularly interested in the subtleties of Popova , you spoke about this picture , do not consider a work to view my comment . Just the picture offered to people, and do not want to look like a fraud frankly evaporated certified copy of a well , because we are not talking about 100 €.
In advance thank you.

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OlegTsi,

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No, no, in that no one blames you.
Just here it is necessary to understand and help you with your question.

During this special thank you.


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