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cos 18.02.2012 20:43

Cracks
 
Dear experts , prokomentiruyte , please estimate the effect on the picture ( from a position of kolektsionera , art ), small cracks on the face that are visible when previewing pictures before the light source ? If no fracture pattern ( 30x40 ) is , say, 1000u.e , how such cracks will affect its price , or it is considered to be hopelessly tainted ?

artcol 18.02.2012 20:49

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Сообщение от cos (Сообщение 1985421)
Dear experts , prokomentiruyte , please estimate the effect on the picture ( from a position of kolektsionera , art ), small cracks on the face that are visible when previewing pictures before the light source ? If no fracture pattern ( 30x40 ) is , say, 1000u.e , how such cracks will affect its price , or it is considered to be hopelessly tainted ?

Have not seen a picture of more than 10 years without cracking.

Самвел 18.02.2012 21:10

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Сообщение от artcol (Сообщение 1985431)
is not seen a picture of more than 10 years without cracking.

I work with oil, which 50-70 years without a single crack (cardboard \\ Oil)

artcol 18.02.2012 21:20

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Сообщение от Samvel (Сообщение 1985451)
I work with oil, which 50-70 years without a single crack (cardboard \\ Oil)

I mean canvas.

Игорь Гурьев 18.02.2012 21:25

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And even though you look at the "Lace" Tropinin.


Cracelures sometimes even give some extra charm.

Самвел 18.02.2012 21:26

I think a lot depends on storage conditions, and the original primer and so on.
There are canvases that of 50-60 years and there's no cracks, if there is, they are mechanical.

inega 18.02.2012 21:38

Friends, let us still follow the conventional terminology!
craquelure.
Net (like a spider web), longitudinal, with a detached, expanded, etc.
Arising from damage or poor communication with the ground, his constituents.
And then the rumor cuts <! - ~ 1 ~ ->.

cos 18.02.2012 21:39

clarify the issue - it is not about craquelure as such.
For example, a picture youngish (20-30 years) was kept in neblogopriyatnyh conditions (ie cold, then hot, then wet, then dry) in consequence of that and there were cracks in the soil mechanical nature and meets the colorful layer.

Art-ort 18.02.2012 21:48

"Cracks" excite collectors, contributing to a rush of blood to areas of the brain responsible for pleasure <! - ~ 1 ~ ->

Игорь Гурьев 18.02.2012 21:49

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Сообщение от cos; 1985531"
will clarify the issue - it is not about craquelure as such . For example , a picture youngish ( 20-30 years ) was kept in neblogopriyatnyh conditions (ie cold, then hot , then wet , then dry) in consequence of that and there were cracks in the soil mechanical nature and meets the colorful layer.

So what?
It happens.
You can safely toned , if it interferes with visual , tesket .

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If I can, I would " Lacemaker " light toned without taking away a relief craquelure.

cos 18.02.2012 21:58

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Сообщение от Guriev , Igor (Сообщение 1985571)
So what?
It happens.
You can safely toned , if it interferes with visual , tesket .

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If I can, I would " Lacemaker " light toned without taking away a relief craquelure .

therefore, if I 'm going to buy is not an old picture and it shines through a network of places of mechanical cracks , these cracks in the quality and price do not affect the picture ?

Самвел 18.02.2012 22:08

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That's the day before purchased a work on so to speak spontaneously flea market , about Moskvoretsky market there every day sobirayutsya Old ladies . The price was so low that I was ashamed to bargain. It was minus 20 . Here, on closer inspection there are cracks. By the way , no one familiar with this artist?

cos 18.02.2012 22:14

Samvel, here I am about the same thing, only I did not ask for a low price ...
<! - ~ 1 ~ ->

Самвел 18.02.2012 22:16

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Сообщение от cos; 1985631"
if I'm not going to buy an old picture and it shines through a network of places of mechanical cracks , these cracks in the quality and price do not affect the picture ?

I think that if the picture is not old, and sometimes rayed , and has cracks , it is said that there were not complied with certain rules of primer , or not stored properly. Over time, it is possible that it may crumble gradually and naturally it should also affect the price.

iside 18.02.2012 22:24

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Сообщение от Samvel (Сообщение 1985711)
By the way, no one familiar with this artist?


Uh, well, picture, congratulations.
Samvel, if you please, tell me in a personal address of the market.


And about the artist here, and here


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