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Eriksson 06.02.2012 16:23

Kornilov was a plate of fake
 
Вложений: 2
German citizen of Russian origin offered one auction house in Sweden "Tallrik i porslin, Ryssland, Kjeserliga Porslismanufakturen S: t Petersburg. Tsar Nikolaj I: s period (1825-1855)". Signerad N. Kornilov. Utrop 175.000-200.000 kr. "

( a plate made ​​of porcelain , Russia , the Imperial Manufactory in St. Petersburg. period of the reign of Nicholas I. Signed NG Kornilov. estimeyte 175.000-200.000 euros ).

The plate has not been sold , but then was sent to the online auction .
In the Police Department received a complaint that it was a fake . Plate withdrawn from the auction and the very first examination showed that the plate is made and signed by no more than 10 years ago.


Rising skill of Russian counterfeiters ! Falling confidence in the competence of the Swedish auctioneer ! Ur. ( This is me on my own ) :) <! - ~ 1 ~ -> <! - ~ 1 ~ ->

uriart 06.02.2012 21:53

Eriksson, and in Germany, and Russian are also made fake!

Игорь Гурьев 07.02.2012 08:07

What is a good dish.
Only the cost should be cheaper.
Once a 500.

Landscape inside, maybe even better than the Kornilov , but the gold patterns around - a horror - horror- horror (c).

Comrades, forgers , spare no gold and fantasies on minor details .
Fail counterfeiters are always particular.

A landscape beautifully written , well done !
( Unless printed specials. Printing machines ).

Eriksson 07.02.2012 11:49

Вложений: 3
Well, as I thought - it is not vigilant Bukovskis.

Found a large picture, it is possible to consider the details.

uriart 07.02.2012 13:11

Eriksson, it turns out that in the Emperor's clothes painted by someone?

Of course, it is impossible to judge from the photo.

And so, at first sight, is beyond doubt.

Кирилл Сызранский 07.02.2012 13:19

Цитата:

Сообщение от uriart; 1963151"
turns out that the emperor's clothes someone painted ?

Turnover of something good. Yes , and gold on the face , I think the time is not today .
Цитата:

Сообщение от Eriksson; 1961891"
A plate withdrawn from the auction and the very first examination showed that the plate is made and signed by no more than 10 years ago.

And what about the signature in question ?

Eriksson 07.02.2012 13:33

uriart, I thought so too .

Цитата:

Сообщение от Kirill Syzran ; 1963201"
And what about the signature in question ?

I quoted the press release. Details, as always, is not given . There, and the auction house , it was not named . I had to own resech uchinyat ...

Here is the link :


Curiously, it was a spring auction in 2010 , and the information passed just now.

uriart 07.02.2012 14:16

Eriksson, the fact that on a plate stamp authentic-sure.

Gold, similar to what is normal.

But the painting - I do not know.
I can not judge

Кирилл Сызранский 07.02.2012 14:21

Цитата:

Сообщение от uriart (Сообщение 1963381)
this painting - I do not know.

Topic has suggested that perhaps the landscape "is printed specials. Printing presses."

In both!

uriart 07.02.2012 14:29

Cyril Syzran, well, if you refer to the history of the IPE as plates with printed pictures were released in the days of Alexander the Great.

For this I do not know.

Perhaps you need to do chemical analysis of pigments of the paint layer.

Кирилл Сызранский 07.02.2012 14:37

Цитата:

Сообщение от uriart (Сообщение 1963431)
Well if you turn to the history of IPE as a plate with printed pictures were released in the days of Alexander the First.

No, I understand, there is not about the decal.

Or so it puts a member?

Игорь Гурьев 07.02.2012 18:41

Seeing the second best photo, I take it back.


Just a great dish, and gilding excellent.


And when done - what's the difference?

Serega 13.02.2012 15:41

So , at the same auction were other similar dishes.
One plate was also with this motif ! It is very strange. Maybe the experts hasty ... Although the paintings on the second plate a little bit softer.

тандем 13.02.2012 21:11

Ms Eriksson, why you did not specify the source address you provide information. If it is taken from the source of the civilized , the photo plates accompanying this information, too, must have owner's footnote.
That I mean what is written about one plate and the picture is completely different, does not cause any suspicion of forgery .
Seems to me that the actual fact ... mingled pure lies ... Correspondence ... was painted face of those who, according to the proverb , heard the bell, but do not know where he is ...

Eriksson 13.02.2012 21:33

Цитата:

Сообщение от tandem ; 1975961"
It seems to me that the actual fact ... mingled pure lies ... Correspondence ... was painted face of those who, according to the proverb , heard the bell, but do not know where he is ...

Written these things , " the person of those who " labors of which we all enjoy together .
Very well :

http://www.artsignaturedictionary.co...2/english.html


Only now noticed that the message is now a little changed. The phrase that she carried a plate of about 1825 . Therefore, the human was uriart - old clothes perelitsevali .


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