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John Preston 24.01.2012 12:26

The issue of export of Russian paintings of the old N /x
 
Dear Colleagues,
Tell me, whether I will be given a permit for the export of paintings by an unknown artist , if her age is over 100 years?
I just need to understand whether or not to bother - can not issue permits at all, on this " old" painting .
Sorry if lift is already " beaten " theme .
Just ran into this need , and I would like to ask how to be more experienced colleagues.

Кирилл Сызранский 24.01.2012 12:29

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Сообщение от John Preston (Сообщение 1936811)
Prompt, if I give out permission for the export of paintings by an unknown artist, if her age is over 100 years?

On general grounds - no.

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Сообщение от John Preston (Сообщение 1936811)
may not issue permits at all, on this "old" painting.

Yes, do not give permission at all.

The export of Russian works of art over 100 years old is prohibited.

John Preston 24.01.2012 12:37

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzran (Сообщение 1936821)
Yeah, do not give permission at all.
The export of Russian works of art over 100 years old is prohibited .

This is monstrous , Cyril! Maybe there Test User nakalyakal something like a chicken leg, and already " banned for export from the USSR" , ie from Russia.
It is regrettable ... :cool:>

And what can be non-public reasons ? I think this is not my case ...

Кирилл Сызранский 24.01.2012 12:39

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Сообщение от John Preston (Сообщение 1936841)
And what can be non-generic base?

Well, you are giving to the museum for example, Shishkin and Levitan, and the Ministry of Culture allows you to bring sketch Sulfur, for example.

John Preston 24.01.2012 12:40

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzran (Сообщение 1936851)
Well, you are giving to the museum (the government) for example, Shishkin and Levitan, and the Ministry of Culture allows you to bring sketch Sulfur, for example.


Nightmare!
In general, to introduce to Russia easily, especially by e-mail to receive and withdraw then, if that - can not ...

Кирилл Сызранский 24.01.2012 12:51

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Сообщение от John Preston (Сообщение 1936871)
In general, to introduce to Russia easily, especially by e-mail to receive and withdraw then, if that - can not ...

Import into the hands of, formalizes the import, then withdraw and be able to.

By mail - it's "blind entry", but it is possible to issue the Ministry of Culture, I think.

artcol 24.01.2012 13:24

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Сообщение от John Preston (Сообщение 1936811)
​​Dear Colleagues,
Tell me, whether I will be given a permit for the export of paintings by an unknown artist , if her age is over 100 years?
I just need to understand whether or not to bother - can not issue permits at all, on this " old" painting .
Sorry if lift is already " beaten " theme .
Just ran into this need , and I would like to ask how to be more experienced colleagues .

And what makes it clear that painting 100 years?
In general, I would advise you to call or come in person to the best of Rosokhrankultura and there to tell you about the situation, may suggest or direct help. There, in general, understand the difficulties and go forward.

usynin2 24.01.2012 19:43

I have a violin , which is a cultural value ( subject to the law on the export of cultural goods from Russia), for each border crossing , I am taking a one-time permission to transport the violin and of course there is a passport to instrument.A second tool on the passport is not a cultural value ( which more 100 years), and I spend it quietly across the border. In any case, the movement of cultural property across the border , you must have a passport from Rosokhrankultura .

tivat 24.01.2012 20:06

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Сообщение от John Preston (Сообщение 1936811)
Dear Colleagues,

Tell me, whether I will be given a permit for the export of paintings by an unknown artist, if her age is over 100 years?


Oil?
I've heard, if you really need to take out, put on a layer of varnish date oil, for example, "copy-1970," and then removed.
Tried it?

artcol 24.01.2012 20:23

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Сообщение от tivat (Сообщение 1937311)
Oil?
I've heard, if you really need to take out, put on a layer of varnish date oil, for example, "copy-1970," and then removed.
Tried it?

So you can substitute an expert.

John Preston 24.01.2012 20:37

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Сообщение от tivat (Сообщение 1937311)
Oil?
I've heard, if you really need to take out, put on a layer of varnish date oil, for example, "copy-1970," and then removed.
Tried it?


This is generally some extreme way ...
As a person with no art education, I'm afraid in this way damage the painting.

tivat 24.01.2012 23:57

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Сообщение от artcol (Сообщение 1937321)
So you can substitute an expert .

How so? ... unknown artist . :o>

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Сообщение от John Preston (Сообщение 1937351)
This is generally a way to extreme ... As a person with no art education , I'm afraid in this way damage the painting .

Why Arts Education ? Try to take the canvas (a piece of new or old, unwanted and butter ) , put on his dammarny or fir varnish, let it dry and write a few letters of butter mixed with the same varnish. Allow the oil to dry , then remove the label , such as isobutyl alcohol .
And the experience will be . :)> ;)>

Toinen 25.01.2012 01:31

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Сообщение от tivat (Сообщение 1937311)
put on the varnish layer, the date of butter, for example, "copy-1970",


And from the inside canvas, which is more than a hundred years, chlorine bleach, to ride a 1970?

Nightmare!

tivat 25.01.2012 02:05

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Сообщение от Toinen (Сообщение 1937711)
And from the inside canvas, which is more than a hundred years, chlorine bleach, to ride for 1970?

Nightmare!

Do you think bleach is?
:)>

Toinen 25.01.2012 02:28

tivat, one should not think that some idiots around, it's misleading.
There are many more ingenious ways of smuggling of cultural property, but at least the methods are different, there is something that unites them: they all (eventually) lead to trouble.


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