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Connoisseurs - endangered species
Znatochestvo - The term multi-faceted, but has a very clear definition of encyclopedic. Suffice it to recall one of the most popular and famous: "Znatochestvo - Section of Art, formed in the late XIX - early XX centuries., Which aims to determine the value of the product through attribution. Znatocheskaya examination was seen as part of research work at the same time recognized the activities directly related to the art market.
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Eugene, thanks for the interesting material. I moved the topic to the "Survey", here, I think, for her more suitable place.
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Dmitri Sarabyanov, no doubt, a great expert .... but his examination made in recent years, should be treated cautiously.
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Eugene,
Dmitry Sarabianov - excellent judge and a man, I think the only real Academician (in the industry of art). He has taught virtually all of today's art historians. About Dmitry can talk a long time - sorry, he is not young. |
The true value of art can not be on the surface
sheet or canvas. Spirituality is at the bottom (if the artist had this gift be beautiful and eternal) But if the viewer has the ability to see and feel these values and because of these qualities like work, then he does not need an expert. Copy can be outside of the work and what is called inspiration nor when. Therefore, all games with copying is the life of the profane. Expertise they need not in order to confidently enjoy the Divine, and to sell when tired. |
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I am here and look what a conversation. What is the point to take a report for your attention.
He walked me through the galleries around the Kremlin enough, a lot of pictures of art zero. In the CHA, about the building and in the transitions, too, that the building only the prices above. What most of Moscow "galleries" is different from the Chinese market? Hang the same cloth only izrisovannye colors. Do not speak so rudely the pictures drawn with love, it is always visible. Remarkable text (znatochestvo). There is the notion of visual art. The value is measured not in money. Although they, too, and it is very important, but in relation to other principles and rules game. And then I do not understand how I can give a copy of the original? I even convinced that the author's repetition of it will be easy to distinguish. Unless of course the conversation is a serious work. And when they say - "even the experts can not distinguish a copy from the original" it speaks not of the quality copy, but the quality of professionals. |
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Eugene, well, you are very harsh for the beginner, we must be tolerant and to explain why it is so new participants can not be)
and the difference nikola, is that the copies are nothing compared with the original, and I assure you that none of the world's best expert is not immune from mistakes, because the fake, so that he would be an artist said, "Wow!" saw this thing. You can admire the thing, not even realizing that before you fake. And they cost different money because the originals were created by a painter who invented it, who introduced the idea, inspiration, etc. Copies are not worth the money, because it's just pathetic (and sometimes not) attempt to imitation. |
How can I communicate easily. Apparently we speak different languages.
I'm writing on ZNATOCHESTVO. Where you've seen that done copies and sold to the museum? And if you have a copy of the world's leading artists. Make copies for the market. In the both sides (seller and buyer) participate more often are not professionals. In order not to run into a copy, simply not need to be in the place where they may appear. Fortunately personally familiar with many experts in every field. art. Not possible by definition, to UY Or Gerchuk AM Kantor holding copy and admired the work. Personally, I may be temporary doubts about the authenticity of the work. I assure you it is not possible to make a copy of the masterpiece as well as unrealistic sostroit noble, an enlightened face and clear eyes. And I repeat the value of the artwork is not on the surface of the canvas, but in another dimension. Only this be able to see. Therefore, some paintings are called Masterpiece. |
nikola,
Do you think that the "Last Supper" Davinchi impossible to forge. Right? And based on this premise are building an ideal model that other masterpieces, too, can not be copied, because the level forger must be the same as the great artists. But pddelki as a direct copy - are rare, and even stupid. But on the "motives" - a lot. And even the great success and is not much. And then, to live in the categories of black and white, Masterpieces, not a masterpiece, and even more so to assert that there are experts who are not mistaken - Utopia Цитата:
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nikola, you do not live in a fairy tale, do not idealize life, including the art market, is much worse (not dead of course), but I think I know the forum members are well aware of the constant scandals in museums, where turns out that instead of the originals they hang up. And in vain do you think that there are not professionals work. Browse through the forum, there was a wonderful post about LCR insanely talented Kopisty. And your utvrezhdenie that any well-versed expert, do not hesitate tell a fake from the original, roughly similar to what a music critic distinguish good from bad music on the cover of the disc)
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I can imagine what is happening in the world of art.
And about the copy in the course. Also know that between black and white is gray. The range of the gray is very much at large, that white and black have to look for. Can it compare with the gray muddy water in which everything that is happening anything. Time unfortunately is. They all went to the market. So I can say that in our country and now - a successful artist is usually a bad artist. This does not apply recognized the artistic community. Therefore, to stay sane is better now to be in the field Black and white. In March, the CHA has made a remarkable exhibition of the artist Vilen Muharkina. This is a man of white. He did not do any work for money or fame. Just painted. Here his work is just not possible to forge. Of course the best examples. The site on which Wilen Muharkin is partially represented in the work. www.ural-collection.ru |
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Personally, I maximalism your very likable, but the master rights, came down from heaven, there are fakes, grading the quality is very high - from crude forgery, that no one will hold up to very skillfully executed work, which could deceive a very good expert - as an example the Felix Vishnevsky, who had a truly fantastic intuition. So, even it several times in my life swallowed the bait. |
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