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Danese 07.11.2011 17:28

What kind of work?
 
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Experts, please give an assessment of the work

It looks like it Nesterov?

Peter 07.11.2011 20:12

Sketch from nature, professionalnyy.Nesterov hardly be caught in a composition (personal opinion). Looks like a modern signature hudozhnika.Da and some cheeky.

Danese 07.11.2011 21:19

Nesterov
 
Peter
Thank you very much for your feedback
The painting was sold by one of the major European auktsioonyh homes.
In the directory were the following (in translation) . Mikhail Nesterov. 1862 - 1942. Forest landscape . Oil. Cardboard. Size without frame . 55h70.Na back on top of the frame , old ink in German written by hand Mikhail Nesterov 1862-1942 . And there's nothing more to talk about the forgery. No label or number of auction houses directory . Nothing.
About blatant signature dare to say this: I saw a sign Nesterov vermilion - and that in some sketches . And it was strange, because you do not know whether these are reliable sources
What seems strange is that the sketch on the back very much like to Nesterov. On the grounds .
But here is a doubt in the plot and tsvete.A why I turned to the site. And I ask all who can help.
I have several years of reading the site and now I decided to become a member of this forum.

Артём 07.11.2011 21:55

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Сообщение от Danese (Сообщение 1837091)
Experts, please give an assessment of this work

Check out these posts!
Maybe something to help.

http://forum.artinvestment.ru/showpo...11&postcount=7

http://forum.artinvestment.ru/showpo...5&postcount=36

http://forum.artinvestment.ru/showpo...1&postcount=21

Danese 07.11.2011 22:05

Nesterov?
 
I am very grateful to you, What you have found it incredibly interesting. Now I sit and peered .
But the work is really beautiful. Only strange thing. At work, you have shown , canvas and other side blank . And in my work: cardboard and sketch on the back , reminiscent of Nesterova.
I'm very grateful

sergejnowo 07.11.2011 22:55

Danese, please lay out good photos.

On the photos did not see :)>

Danese 08.11.2011 00:06

Nesterov?
 
Вложений: 9
Thank you for your response

That picture may be they will be more visible)

Игорь Гурьев 08.11.2011 03:01

You, comrade Daneze , I think , quite brash modern remake .
I almost fell under the table when he saw how busily and carefully to the same color, without any shades of artist sculpted snow flakes on the trees.

Do not be surprised if somewhere else there are half a dozen of these copies .
Author nablatykalsya , so to speak , this time with eyes closed can , I suppose.

sergejnowo 08.11.2011 09:36

Danese, thanks for the nice photos.

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Сообщение от Igor Guryev (Сообщение 1837631)
totally brazen modern replica

agree with.

Danese 08.11.2011 12:34

Nesterov?
 
Thank you very much for the evaluation and willingness to help.

I also had doubts.

The fact that the auction house sold the work as attributed, which is organized disgusting.

Thank you again.

Кирилл Сызранский 08.11.2011 13:02

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Сообщение от Danese (Сообщение 1837941)
The fact that the auction house sold the work as attributed, which is organized disgusting.

And for how much you bought this thing and where?

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For example, I have not seen in the database MVNesterov nor most of the pictures, nor such a description :
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Сообщение от Danese; 1837311"
In the directory were the following (in translation) . Mikhail Nesterov. 1862 - 1942. Forest landscape . Oil. Cardboard. Size without frame . 55h70.Na back on top of the frame , old ink in German written by hand , Mikhail Nesterov, 1862-1942.


Danese 08.11.2011 17:14

Nesterov?
 
Cyril

Thank you for your answer

It cost 7000 euros and sold it at a German department Lauritz.com, Dusseldorf


To say that they have good experts, I can not.
Sometimes they are very cheap to evaluate a very good job.
In this case, it was sold as Nesterov.

Кирилл Сызранский 08.11.2011 17:23

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Сообщение от Danese (Сообщение 1838361)
It cost 7000 euros and sold it at a German department Lauritz.com, Dusseldorf

And you over 7000 euro bought at Lauritzen?
:eek:> Over 7 tons oyvro?

There, now, and was a bargain?

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Сообщение от Danese (Сообщение 1837311)
painting was sold by one of the major European auktsioonyh homes.

It's about you Lauritzen?
:D>

Danese 08.11.2011 17:28

Yes it is I'm talking about Lauritzen .
Yes, there was a bargain and submit.
Still have a habit of trust assessment of European auction houses , but in vain .
The work we have not received and return it back naturally .
They offer a guarantee of authenticity, they write in their rules , but if the situation turns out to be fake, promise money back if there is expert opinion.
Now here we sit and think, where it is better to take ?

Кирилл Сызранский 08.11.2011 17:32

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Сообщение от Danese; 1838421"
work , we have not yet received , and of course return it back .

A paid off . Refused to buy until later , they owe you a refund.
Residents of Germany or Denmark make it easy.
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Сообщение от Danese; 1838421"
promise to return the money if there is expert opinion.
Now here we sit and think, where it is better to take ?

You somehow geographically where you are?


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