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NATA NOVA 07.10.2011 10:50

Museum standards for design. What are they?
 
I have often encountered this phrase in describing the requirements for work submitted for exhibition (competitions, etc.) ..
I wanted to learn the current trends and practices the principles of relevant experience .
For example:
Antirefleksnoe glass with him do not accept. (I wonder why ?)
Stale (old) passport - it's understandable ..
Plastic frames do not accept because it is difficult to screw the gallery employees holders;
And anyway, who thinks about , " museum standards of design "? (refers to traditional materials and techniques)

Сима 07.10.2011 11:13

For me, the main museum in the standard chart that list was not stuck on the perimeter of the window, and the substrate on their feet and already closed the window. And hanging freely . Ready to kill just those dealers who sell sheets glued tape . So what do you think - and museums glue to the window - laziness . So, perhaps , the standards are blurred.

NATA NOVA 07.10.2011 11:36

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Сообщение от Sima ; 1797903"
on the legs

" feet" of kusochechkov - tape ?
I did not come across that " perimeter " .. Typically, graphic sheet was attached kusochechkom (or two) of adhesive tape to mount and the substrate ( as a page , on the one hand , from the top ).

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So , perhaps, the vague standards .

may not know? ( now is the time " capitation amateurs and simpletons ")

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Seema, watercolor sheet is attached ( on legs ) to the underside of the upper side of the mat . ( Or pravelbnee only to the substrate ? . If the size of a small, fixed to the passport or to the cover board ( substrate) ? tell me please how to correct?
As I guessed , " substrate" is a finishing board back ?

Сима 07.10.2011 16:18

NATA NOVA, watercolor sheet is attached not to the window mat , namely, to the back of cardboard. And no tape , namely, the foot - as ready (paper rolls of adhesive tape such as , but professional ) and self-made , in fish glue. Go to the front window is not attached at all. It simply closes the list .

NATA NOVA 07.10.2011 16:44

oh , Seema chka . Thank you ! These tapes , as once upon a time it was at the post office ?
 I also thought about such as Scotch tape over time can stain or peel off ..
I " foot" did not come across , (I wonder how look like? ) Only scotch ( one half to the substrate , the other to the mat inside). But these were not pictures of museum and bought because of frames.
Isinglass gelatin=? 4%for example?
I intuitively long ago that most gentle gelatin glue and paper, and canvases. ( I have them on canvas , glue krton pleased to take your hands )

Сима 07.10.2011 20:23

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Сообщение от NATA NOVA (Сообщение 1798213)
These tapes, as once upon a time it was at the post office?


NATA NOVA, pro-mails do not know.
This is a special ribbon just for graphics.
Like tape, but from benign materials and accurately on paper.
Restorers say precisely.

Маруся 08.10.2011 18:20

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Сообщение от Sima ; 1798183"
watercolor sheet is attached not to the window mat , namely, to the back of cardboard.

Oh Shima , your words would be yes to God 's ears ! , And even our experts in the workshops.
Bought as a collection of good graphics , auction , transfer, etc. work and slipped ... A few months used to run in Moscow, was looking for someone I could fix the correct tape, until it is bought. The funny thing is that not everyone is an expert in the eyes is determined that the rear base - the fabric , and those who are determined - at once refused, on the pretext that 'd never done before.
Here is the museum's design ( the work was at the shows ) ...

Сима 08.10.2011 23:23

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Сообщение от Maroussia ; 1799123"
work and slipped ...

 
Maroussia, the fact of the matter is that attached to the perimeter of the sheet to the window pretty quickly warped , deformed, starts to bulge . It does not depend on what glued to the window just can not. But it's easier , because the mount to the substrate requires additional operations. A tape - even paint , though the film - leaves a terrible tracks, and the longer it stuck , it should be inescapable . ( Oh, and another patch close up !) There was a story in ancient times , when all of the museums in Yerevan Yakulov issued and there are mounted on the tape - the most primitive . Scotch tape has over 30 years , thank God, otkovyryali and sticky traces still remain. Stick to the entire row. And show through on the right side, in general , the horror . A tape is removed using a hair dryer , heated and pulled gently , slowly. But also skills needed - do not overheat. I have two dryer already burned. :(> And if you do not dogreesh , the disruption will be. In short , the dealers are expensive, culturally mount ! !

NATA NOVA 19.10.2011 01:05

Painting on cardboard in the frame.
 
The better to mount?
(Pinks, parenthesis, records of various kinds)

After fixing than glue?
(And should it?)

Personally, I definitely against modern synthetic adhesive tapes.

Rama would prefer not to plastic.

Those who practice what?

K-Maler 19.10.2011 01:58

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Сообщение от NATA NOVA; 1811553"
Who what practice ?

Slim frame and glass must be made ​​of wood. The plastic will sag ... But for the painting and can be synthetic, especially wide , 5cm ...
There is a very beautiful and sturdy frame of Korean synthetic baguette. And fixing it normally is ...

And about how graphics spoil the mount you just blow , because it spoiled !

Сима 19.10.2011 07:05

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Сообщение от NATA NOVA; 1811553"
( Pinks, parenthesis , records of various kinds )

NATA NOVA, if you close your other board , all the same - a carnation or parenthesis . In this case, you can seal up anything that dust is not jammed in the slot. And if you close it, you risk when removing and damaging its turnover raskantovke themselves .

inega 19.10.2011 10:53

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Сообщение от Shem (Сообщение 1798183)
NATA NOVA, watercolor sheet is attached not to the window mat , namely, to the back of cardboard. And it is not scotch, namely the legs - as prepared (paper rolls of adhesive tape such as , but professional ), and In-house, in fish glue. Go to the front window is not attached at all. It simply closes the list .

Oh, where are the legs and sturgeon glue ... Have not met. But how urgent the "wrong" design to " window " can recommend special translucent fotougolochki (small format ), or cut into strips of Whatman paper , and pressed their corners. The bands can be attached to the same masking tape to the back of the mat (ie sheet will be pinned strips in the corners, not in any way without touching the adhesive). And saw a kind of large-format support from the bottom of the turnover is also a strip of Whatman paper cut to On the one hand in the shape of the Kremlin wall ) :)>
Russian people have always come up with something ! :)>

NATA NOVA 19.10.2011 17:08

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Сообщение от Shem; 1811753"
close your other board ,

This is simply necessary to do it! As for the other?
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In this case, you can seal up anything that dust is not jammed in the slot .

All the same , I am inclined to the natural ( water soluble ) glues, which are easily removed if necessary ..
The old frame with synthetic ribbons dismantle , nasty work ... Some take only acetone and then not immediately , the remains of the frame does not pull out , and if the frame is good and just feel sorry for the forces and time ... A must ..
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fotougolochki

I remember the old beige paper fotougolochki .. In my opinion they were water-soluble glue ..(?)

NATA NOVA 25.10.2011 10:07

That is, perhaps, a museum standard!
 
That's made ​​out yesterday bought on Sunday Flea ( karbute ) picture ( reproduction ) , purchased from the beautiful frames, as always , of course)
Glass - thin, crystal clear (no green tide (when viewed from the side) ; corners slightly (slightly ) rounded edges (all treated with ( Matt ), and every little corner of glass attached to the frame of bilateral tiny pieces of adhesive material. (Probably so as not to shifted , just in case .)
I was impressed , not previously met.
Unfortunately, the studio tracks not found .. ( what a pity! )

PS: and it is very good feng shui ! (where the hidden details in perfect order ) ...

about the dangers of tape :
bought a beautiful frame (plastic, imitation baguette ). The price was stuck with tape to the front. When the issue was ( a couple of months ), gilding remains on an adhesive tape .
So keep in mind when asking the seller pokukupke a separate tape. ( In general, the tape eventually makes a lot of nasty things .)
 One is even able to (eventually) leak in the back of the MDF ! ( In the case of svyakom . Change the color)

NATA NOVA 05.11.2011 00:45

The question of size.
specify what size : the size of the actual canvas ( board) or the size of the visible ? (since the frame covers the 0.3-0.7 cm on each side ..)
So kakkoy same size be right ?
This difference is particularly pronounced in smaller format in the works , and equally t.k.polotno frames for large and small jobs.
Prompt, knowledgeable ladies .. ( urgently needed)
PS: while pointing out both sizes .


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