Polishing "fish bone" (?) Pohitonova
 

In a remarkable intervyu miniaturist Ivan Pohitonova flashed mention of the fact that he was a plate of lemon and mahogany " fish bone ".
Began to search . I found other stories , but there are already " fish bone " polished " dried up painting ."
 Who can clarify the " fish bone "?
Maybe it's " freedom of translation" ? can he had in mind " fish glue "?
And what kind of mastic ospolzoval it as a primer ? In some sources , " golden ", otherwise "dark " ..
 With gratitude and look forward to thoughts esteemed experts.

Previously, gold polished icons bear or boar tusk, so still a classic form of "cloves" (a tool made of agate) and now resembles boar tusk.

And walrus tusks may have used, but in the old ivory called "fish tooth".

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Cyril correctly noted.

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Of the old Russian speech reached us in scanty number of revolutions, which should not be understood straightforwardly.

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I myself have not seen this, again, I think Cyril rights.

When I first read about " polishing fish bone ," recalled bone instruments used in the department of artistic treatment of the skin ( which is 10-15 cm long, 3-4 wide, 5-10mm thick ivory ..- it can and is called " ivory "?

I want to add to the legend that there are still professional jargon, understandable only in the circle of specialists.

Pecheneg, of course, probably explained by this and and inconsistencies and misunderstanding.
Need to contact the poster.

Constantine is right , only that our restorer confirmed that fish bone is a walrus tusk , it is the least anti-static , on this and used before

And how this property ( antistatic ) affects the quality ( polished boards , or painting )?

Pro - gilding process understand ..

Maybe just " out of habit ?" Those that already were at hand , especially if you are familiar with the instrument and he (the tool ), a well established ?

Does not stick out of the air dust, pieces of susalki, grains of sand.
And if you will stick by polishing will be scratched.

An interesting message was received from Eugene Krotov.
The report advised that the "fish bone" is called palatal bones of sea carp.
Quote from the report:

... "I do not think it had a tusk of a walrus because of (an article on a bone, walrus tusk, and similar animals known as sea fish tooth or bone), while at the same time, the palatine bone, Sparidae (sea bream) it is used for polishing - it turns silky shine, though, there is no specification that this is used in painting. as it is unlikely that Pokhitonov would handle the bone plates to the letter - there is absolutely no need to level the ground in front of the plane (I heard somewhere that he was primed dammarnoy resin (mastic) - that is, roughly speaking, did something like lacquer ground (and it gives the best connection to the paint layer to the substrate). than glued to the ground, I do not know. maybe you find what you are- else about it, it will be interesting to hear. "

So welcome to the news on technology polishing a fish bone.
Now this "Sparidae" find somewhere ... <! - ~ 1 ~ ->
Pictures of sea carp:
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Fish bone - a bone of sepia shell (or cuttlefish ). We have the technology zhibopisi popular because it is not lives in the Atlantic Ocean , the Mediterranean and Adriatic seas. This is a white porous plastinka.V Italy chudozhniki and restorers use it as we sandpaper . Her son left orphan naiti on the beach the whole bag !

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Sorry for the typos - keyboard's fault!

Sorry for the typos - keyboard's fault!

Marina13, thanks for your interesting post.

Perhaps this is the squid sold in pet stores as a dressing for parrots and snails?
It reminds of the form ... It is necessary to explore ..

Dear NATA NOVA, and try to make her the money.
The definition of " fish bone " in relation to the technique of Ivan Pavlovich Pohitonova owes its appearance mistake, once crept <! - ~ 1 ~ -> one of the articles, and continuing to walk through the pages of various publications.
In fact, there was not referring to " fish bone " and the so-called " fish tooth ", t e - ivory .
Of course, mainly ivory was used as an excellent material for carving work. But for the special properties of natural ivory loved him and the old master painters of furniture . They used it as a " cloves " (" polishers ") for the absorption : the painters - the surface of primed boards , and in furniture - for typesetting inserts. Smoothes - up to a mirror shine ! ( True, Boris Shergina Mitya Loshchilov inlaid tabletop " wolf tooth " <! - ~ 1 ~ ->)
Sincerely, dabbler .

Dear Nata Nova!
I sincerely regret that you found my version is not worthy of attention. But in this case I was right , absolutely and unconditionally.
I.P.Pohitonov is in the process " smoothes " sequentially deposited layers of paint , achieving a characteristic " enamel " surface. Clean off - palette knife and smoothes - Loshchilov . Smoothes and not pemzoval <! - ~ 5 ~ ->. (And it's a great way that in tinyscope - even seen through a magnifying glass ). In addition, Ivan Pavlovich old iconographic technique is very interested in mladosti . And as iconographer without polishers ? Without polishers iconographer - quite impossible . Almost as a painter - no whitewash <! - ~ 1 ~ -> ...
Oh well , it happens. Vanya did not seem Solntsev battalion scouts ... At this point - what to ... I will not delitstsa more knowledge ! I will gather them into a large bag , and bury in the yard of the estate Decembrist Svistunova !