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Тютчев 20.07.2011 05:54

Study: Students can not the U.S. show on the map his country
 
Study: Students can not the U.S. show on the map his country

19/07/201122: 42

MOSCOW, July 19 - RIA Novosti. More than half of all elementary and secondary schools in the United States does not know the geographical position of his country, said on Tuesday the agency Bloomberg with reference to a study by the U.S. Department of Education.

Only half of those surveyed students were able to grade four in the correct order Descending Square locate North America, United States, California and Los Angeles. Demonstrated knowledge of geography, only a third of young participants.

According to Professor of Geography at the University of Pennsylvania Roger M. Downs (Roger M. Downs), this situation is explained by the fact that teachers in schools today spend more time teaching math and reading at the expense of history, geography, and other natural and human sciences, knowledge of which is difficult check with standardized tests.

"(Since) class time becomes more expensive and scarce commodity, geography and other subjects such as history and art history are lost in this lose-lose game with high stakes to tests," - said Downs.

According to the results of similar studies conducted in the past year, only about a third of those surveyed students to determine distances on a map, said the agency.

http://www.ria.ru/world/20110719/404248770.html

Vlasta 20.07.2011 10:35

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other subjects such as history and art history are lost in this lose-lose game with high stakes tests on "

Oh, what a surprise ? You may think we do better ... At last our rector and rector said: " Neh ... n to breed idiots in our academy , nothing at all about the art they do not know ...", and issued an order in which the next school year, students of all Academy courses will be mandatory visit museums in Moscow. It is true we have not understood or optionally after the surrender will be offset . Teaching staff of the Academy is delighted by the initiative of the rector, and the students have not yet up to date :D>

Vladimir 20.07.2011 12:44

It happens that the lack of theoretical knowledge with practical skills more than compensate: a high mobility within the country, travel a lot, generates innovation, protect patents.

Ika-Ika 20.07.2011 12:59

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Сообщение от Vlasta (Сообщение 1711571)
Oh, what a surprise?
You may think we do better ...

Our education in the most important is different from the Soviet education that is now in high school are prepared just the perpetrators, ie
not creative people, in principle, whether you are a physician, artist, engineer, etc.

Santa 20.07.2011 14:55

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Сообщение от Tiutchev ; 1711383"
Study: Students can not the U.S. show on the map his country

I is not surprised .
Several years ago, came to our house painter from the United States .
On the question of war between north and south - was very surprised ..
At first they thought that play the fool , it turned out - no ..
This " doltishness " - this is their level of knowledge.
We had a little to enlighten fellow Jim from St. Louis ..
Told him their story ..

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Our education in the most important is different from the Soviet education that is now in high school prepared just performers ,

Today's education system - it even sabotage can not be named .
For the introduction of " modern system" ought to put a wall of such innovators ..

Ika-Ika 20.07.2011 15:07

Santa, maybe they are trying to think of something, fuss, and at meetings in the government's eyes staring at the boss, but if they lost the understanding of the whole, then doing something meaningless, it still does not
poluchitsya.Eto very important to understand the whole, though in the painting, at least where ...

Santa 20.07.2011 15:48

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] maybe they are trying , [/U] think about something , fuss , and at meetings in the government 's eyes staring at the boss , but if they lost the understanding of the whole, then do something meaningless, it still does not work .


Oh , Ika-Ika, if tried !
As fig them all ( these innovators ) ..
Their children do not live here and they are not going to live here :(>
Why try to that of another ( already in effect ) of the people?
You can just potaraschit eyes , so for the moment the severity ..
And on weekends, the airport, there ... the children who attend there, according to well-functioning system for centuries ..
And then, after the weekend, again you can goggle eyes and to experiment ( collapse and all the good that has been achieved ) to our children.
Ugh, disgusting it all.

Мимопроходил 20.07.2011 16:27

Great creators of CSE - bravo! :mad:>

Questions to exam in the North Caucasus more from year to year. high ratings there is much more than the Russian average, and actual results are deplorable. For example, errors in their applications for admission to one of the Moscow university in 2009 were just terrible.

Gold medalist in Alanya (78 points on the exam in Russian language) said about himself: "He took the 3rd place in the district AlimpEade." The girl asked excellent student from Dagestan, in his statement to law school to take her on a specialty "yurisprYudentsiya." A classmate of its potential to result in Nalchik 74 points USE in Russian sees his future profession as "yurisTURdentsiya." The difficulty in writing a speech called "podlEnik" (instead of "original"), "eksplOtatsiya." As members of the admissions officers said, just right to make a hefty "Arfografichesky dictionary" Southern standouts.


In April, Medvedev and the Minister of Education Fursenko at a personal meeting with the exam question in some republics, particularly stressed - yes, they say, is necessary to understand how ugly Well, it turns out, ay-ay-ay, that we missing something here ... This was, remember, in April. In July, it turned out that the leaders of "progress" among the regions are the same - Ingushetia, Adygea, Dagestan ...

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I was not surprised.
Several years ago, came to our house painter from the United States.
On the question of war between north and south - was very surprised ..
At first they thought that play the fool, it turned out - no ...

Americans are really like a very selective to the formation relate. Some of the items just consider unnecessary, unimportant. Son of some acquaintances, now living "there" was very surprised at Russia Victory Day. According to his version of the war won America (are not even in it), which fought on the side ... Germany. :eek:>

Well this is a hundred years had passed, what could be a more distant times to say (you should have seen the face of the boy, when I showed him the various items and said that this, for example, the book is read, when the U.S. did not even exist. In his understanding, it is generally somewhere beyond Veremey). :)>

Statistics really depressing that here, in Russia, that the ocean ... Practice has shown that if an American that does not know about the world - so much the worse for the world. But the local Russian ignorant on every corner deep reasoning about politics, economics and social justice are simply amazing. History proved - the ignorant are easier to manage. Good luck!

Самвел 20.07.2011 18:18

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students can not the U.S. show on the map his country

I served in the Soviet era in 1988 in Ulyanovsk, a construction battalion. So after a week of quarantine, we have new inductees were political meetings. Saw him as I remember, Major Lewandowski. We had 40 people, from different parts of the Soviet Union. Causes Lewandowski recruit named OByskalov, and asks him what he would have shown, for his political map of the world Russia and China. He blushed and walked back and forth, looking at the map, but nothing could help it. Then he said Lewandowski. Well Obyskalov you here the whole map searched, and found nothing. Calls 2 3 4 recruits, there and Russian Armenians and Kazakhs, Azeris, and no one can show neither India nor China, and markups on Russian ragovarivayut bad, and some do not know. For me it was a discovery. Then he called me, so I estestvennno, and India has shown, both China and even America. Levandovky causing asked Tokuda appeal, and recorded at home. I skazaz that of Nagorno-Karabakh. We had 5 of Karabakh people. March 2 by calling him, all of our show and even told. 5 draftee, so just do talked about social countries, seas, oceans, without reflection on the eye showed Israel. Lewandowski and he asked where the call? Hearing-Karabakh, he said. Well, you are giving Karabakh.

Кирилл Сызранский 20.07.2011 18:22

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Сообщение от Samvel (Сообщение 1712503)
Lewandowski, and he asked where the call?
Hearing-Karabakh, he said.
Well, you are giving Karabakh.

It would be ridiculous, add Major: "And where is it, anyway?"

Santa 20.07.2011 18:24

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Son of some acquaintances , now living "there" was very surprised at Russia Victory Day. According to his version of the war won America ( are not even in it), which fought on the side ... Germany.

A son of my friends ( it always sent to London to learn something :D>) , I asked what he knows about Zhukov , honestly asked me - "And what team he plays "... I almost choked .., when he was 13 years old ..
Now comes ( and goes :D>, parents can help ), the MSU Department of Public Administration ( now very trendy fakultetets ) ..
Will we manage this talent here .. :(>

Самвел 20.07.2011 18:29

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" And where is it , anyway? "

Then have the Karabakh conflict was in full swing, and he knew where it is, and even asked me what it is you are there uproar . I was young, with their principles . Went and said it was our business. Goat -island Lewandowski said . For this you need to declare the 7 days of arrest . But apparently I was sorry the young .

Grigory 20.07.2011 18:44

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Сообщение от Samvel ; 1712503"
I served in the Soviet era in 1988 in Ulyanovsk , a construction battalion . So after a week of quarantine , we have new inductees were political meetings . Saw him as I remember , Major Lewandowski . We had 40 people , from different parts of the Soviet Union. Causes Lewandowski recruit named OByskalov , and asks him what he would have shown , for his political map of the world Russia and China. He blushed and walked back and forth , looking at the map, but nothing could help it .

The same was the case I have. Only years were 1980-1981 and the city was Kishinev .
The soldiers could not nothing show on the map , and by the way served in the army map ... :(>
So much for the vaunted Soviet education ...
I was shocked when I after graduation he was drafted into the army.
It turns out in our country stoooolko stupid, awfully stupid guys ...
It is well that we are in the company Lad Camp had 20 people from our institute , was to talk to. The remains of hair stand on end is still in the memories of the stupidity and the soldiers and officers ...

Кирилл Сызранский 20.07.2011 18:51

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and served as a way to map the troops ... :(>

Oh, there even were all literate, could read /write.
I served in the construction battalion in 77-79 , we were just illiterate. Really, just write or could not read in Russian. I do not know how it in their own languages ​​, they wrote letters home , but some soldiers letters from home even in his Baku Azerbaijan asked to read .
 :D>

Самвел 20.07.2011 18:57

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Сообщение от Grigory; 1712571"
So much for the vaunted Soviet education ...
I was shocked when I after graduation he was drafted into the army.
It turns out in our country stoooolko stupid, awfully stupid guys ...

I think that now even dumber . The choice between the worst and horror. Then at least the shame was , you would have seen reddened Obyskalova .

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"yurisTURdentsiya

 
Our physical education teacher when taking exams, well, at least so they say, has made four errors in the word of 3 letters.
Who knows this word?


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