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artart 27.06.2011 22:15

Secondary and primary markets
 
good day

let's discuss this great topic, primary and secondary art market.

are of the opinion that "the primary (auction) and secondary (Gallery) market."
wonder who he thinks about it.
just say, that this point of view I do not share.

Кирилл Сызранский 27.06.2011 22:28

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Сообщение от artart (Сообщение 1682773)
"primary (auction) and secondary (Gallery) market."

And not the other way right?
:)>

Toinen 27.06.2011 22:29

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Сообщение от artart (Сообщение 1682773)
primary (auction)


Primary - this is when buying from a picture of the artist (relatives or gallery owner), and the rest of the secondary market.

Сима 27.06.2011 22:29

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I understand that the problem of sequence numbers?
Ie
chicken and eggs?

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Сообщение от Toinen (Сообщение 1682821)
primary - when it bought the picture from the artist (relatives), and the rest of the secondary market.

Yes.
I always thought so, too.

NATA NOVA 27.06.2011 22:38

artart, and why?
Why?

(The secondary is when the act of sale occurred twice)

Or not, after the first sale (donation) is considered a secondary market!

artcol 27.06.2011 22:39

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Сообщение от Sim (Сообщение 1682823)


Yes.
I always thought so, too.

You are right to think :)>

Toinen 27.06.2011 22:50

NATA NOVA, when you are inside the official dealer buy a car, you buy it in the primary market, and sell when (at least for the next day), the sale takes place on the secondary market.

Алек Сандер 27.06.2011 22:54

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Сообщение от artart (Сообщение 1682773)
are of the opinion that "the primary (auction) and secondary ( Gallery) market ".

In general, I somehow did not understand the wording . "Primary and secondary market " - what? If the problem is that the primary market - this is an auction, and secondary - is a gallery , can only advise: do not communicating with those among whom such views are prevalent . Who knows what other views they might find ... :)>

NATA NOVA 27.06.2011 23:08

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Сообщение от Toinen; 1682861"

NATA NOVA, when you are inside the official dealer buy a car, you buy it in the primary market , and sell when ( at least for the next day) , the sale takes place on the secondary market.
__________________

 And if the car dealer's property -then- second !

As for art, ( according to the logic and practice), then the secondary market can be considered when the owner has made it not myself ( bought , gave , received by inheritance ) ( Or not?)

Toinen 27.06.2011 23:13

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Сообщение от NATA NOVA (Сообщение 1682893)
And if the car dealer's property-then-second!


And directly from the factory cars are not sold only through a network of authorized dealers.
Mutual dealer with a factory (with the artist gallery owner), we are not concerned with you.
So that primary.

NATA NOVA 27.06.2011 23:17

Toinen, and if received as a gift? Then the secondary!

Пелагея Ларина 27.06.2011 23:28

Market - even in Africa market .

Securities market.
The term " primary market " refers to the sale of new securities issues . Following this, the primary buyer (investor ) has the right to resell these securities to other persons, and those in turn as follows . Subsequent resale of the securities constitutes the secondary market .

The real estate market .
Under the primary real estate market is commonly understood set of transactions made with the newly created , as well as privatized entities.
Under the secondary real estate market - transactions with entities that are in operation and associated with resale or other forms of transfer objects from one owner to another.

Ie " Primary market " - is always the first sale .
The method of sale may be different. I - Artist (producer) - I can sell directly ( by hand ) to the buyer (including the art dealer ) , I can through the auction, through the gallery , through an intermediary , etc.
 I is the first seller (owner ) - " primary market ".
I understand .

Самвел 27.06.2011 23:35

Just do a few options are the primary market. Well, for example, the primary market is the market when it is possible to buy really good stuff at very low cost , well, or a good price. Successfully purchased the work in one word ( presented , it does not matter ). Or saw a good artist, has invested venture , exhibited , and if lucky, have a price for the artist. But when it was assigned to the price, this is a secondary market . At the forum , I had 2 e purchase of the primary market (for me of course). Nezaputal chance your message?

NATA NOVA 27.06.2011 23:35

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Сообщение от Larina, Pelagia ; 1682911"
Ie " Primary market " - is always the first sale .

Here it tied to the manufacturer ( the artist ).
if the artist (the producer ) has a primary , if someone else ( not the artist ) then the secondary
I suspect that if the owner of a legal entity (although the artist) , then this is the secondary market.

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Сообщение от Samvel (Сообщение 1682923)


Just do a few options are the primary market.

No, Samvel, a variant

. You have bought (accepted as a gift), want to sell, this is a secondary market.

When an artist sells itself, the primary
 
when an artist sells a legal person-secondary.

I understand (from practice) ..

Toinen 27.06.2011 23:43

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Сообщение от NATA NOVA (Сообщение 1682903)
and if received as a gift? Then the secondary!


Not only when stolen!


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