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gran 27.06.2011 19:39

Authenticity??
 
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Help identify.

AUTHENTICITY RIBUTATSII question??
:confused:> :confused:> :confused:>

From SW ..

Toinen 27.06.2011 19:54

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Сообщение от gran (Сообщение 1682551)
Authenticity??


Appropriate to speak not about the authenticity of this paper, the reliability of the information contained therein.

gran 27.06.2011 20:01

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Сообщение от Toinen (Сообщение 1682561)
It is more appropriate to speak not about the authenticity of this paper, the reliability of the information contained therein.


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Photos from the bad pictures, well At least it would be understandable ochem question.

gran 27.06.2011 20:25

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Photos from the bad pictures, well At least it would be understandable ochem question.

Toinen 27.06.2011 20:27

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Сообщение от gran (Сообщение 1682581)
pictures with bad pictures



Joke appreciated!

Pecheneg 27.06.2011 20:36

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Сообщение от Toinen (Сообщение 1682561)
is more appropriate to speak not about the authenticity of this paper, the reliability of the information contained therein.

Well, perhaps this conclusion should be accompanied by examination of the object, and then visual eksperiza does not prove anything.

Toinen 27.06.2011 20:41

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Сообщение от Pecheneg (Сообщение 1682623)
visual eksperiza does not prove anything



I agree!
In form and content of this paper is more like a certificate from the housing department.

gran 27.06.2011 20:44

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Сообщение от Pecheneg (Сообщение 1682623)
Well, perhaps this conclusion should be accompanied by examination of the object , and then visual eksperiza does not prove anything .

And I'm on tomzhe .....
In general, SHM zanimaetsya similar services in oblosti Zapodnoy European painting? ?
Coins awards (RUSSIA) often vstrechaetsya .
But that would be painting ?????

Maybe I 'm wrong.
From SW ..

Pecheneg 27.06.2011 20:52

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Сообщение от gran (Сообщение 1682661)
Coins awards (RUSSIA) often vstrechaetsya.

 
As for the coins I know in the Guimet chief judge Shiryakov on why in the Ukraine he does not doveryayut.Da fuflovyh coins and now with the E-Bey countless Number of rushing especially Russia 18 - 19 centuries.

gran 27.06.2011 20:57

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Here ..

And there are going to art expert report??

Although the coin is not to give a stamp paper certificate.

From SW ..

Кирилл Сызранский 27.06.2011 21:35

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Сообщение от gran (Сообщение 1682691)
And there are going to art expert report ????

Given exactly.
Now I do not know.

redbor 27.06.2011 21:39

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Сообщение от Toinen (Сообщение 1682641)
I agree!
In form and content of this paper is more like a certificate from the housing department

Very strange paper.
Why there is described by frame?
And the price is another picture?
 
"Expert opinion" about the picture, but the images picture no.

That is, you can use any picture ...

gran 27.06.2011 22:15

As it says in the conclusion

* Works of the artist in Russia, * NO

So we can determine authorship kakzhe without analogue of such works.

This is what happens??

From SW ...

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Сообщение от redbor (Сообщение 1682731)
Very strange paper.
Why there is described by frame?
And the price is another picture?
 
"Expert opinion" about the picture, but the images picture no.

That is, you can use any picture ...


Yes and no number ..

Сима 27.06.2011 22:53

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Сообщение от redbor (Сообщение 1682731)
Very strange paper .

Yes , I agree . For 2005 and the capital's museum of more than strange. 90-95 , in the last century is written. Then, as a cunning twist. I can not believe that GIM - country nepuganyh turtles so much to give evidence at the picture of the artist, whose standards are not available in the country. Although the author may be so skilled that he remembered the manner of the masters of foreign experience? This also can not be denied . However, the mention of "visual" examination shows some sophistication still - so you can not make a claim on the technology . But on the other hand, the " visibility " is a contradiction with the mention of something " technical and technological " ( signs ???). And the fact that no number on the document, it is not strange . This means that the museum as a whole did not support the institute expertise and individual staff support . :)> A museum closed his eyes. It is quite common situation to the " misery."

sergejnowo 27.06.2011 22:55

gran, want to buy?
For good photos can be quite accurate to say it or not he.

And with the price, like many German realists mid-19th century is not easy.
Art- works price 229 positions with oil.
The average of the ten , seven works are not sold .
Not business topics include:
- Around a little prayer
- Not deep enough prescribed work
- Portraits without prescribed background
The size does not matter.
Only a dozen works, including the aforementioned 229 and left within 25t - 35t Euro.
All of them, in greater or lesser extent , domestic scenes with perfectly spelled out the details and background.
Not at all confident that the work under discussion will be sold in Europe or America for 10m euros.
Then a good set of his works:
http://iamachild.wordpress.com/categ...emen-johann-g/


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