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uriart 05.05.2011 20:14

Warranties
 
I appeal to all who know what safeguards gives the auction house Bonhams .
What kind of expert institutes of Russia are to them indisputably - avtoritenymi ?
If Sotebis and Kristiz give guarantees for five years , something about Bonhams I do not know anything .
My friend , who speaks perfect English , at my request , nothing on their site is not found .
Why do you ask ?
I want to buy them a job here and I would like to know before safeguards .
Write a letter to the Russian Front - Eugene Tesluk and Sophie Hamilton .
While no response was sent .
Maybe someone has experience please share .

uriart 06.05.2011 10:18

Gentlemen!

Does not anyone have experience with Bonhams?

Konstantin 06.05.2011 10:26

Posted by Bonhams in your question and a link here.
Usually quickly answered.

Whereas previously no one will tell.

Added after 1 minutes 7 minutes
Oh!

Write to me that your letter is also given.
Why have not answered?
They write that it was not possible <!--~ 10 "-".

Promise to answer now and here, and you by mail.

uriart 06.05.2011 15:23

Konstantin, can laugh .
I was told .


Dear Mr .....

Which lot are you interested in purchasing?

Kind regards


It seems that the answer to safeguards is irrelevant .

As far as I know, Mrs. Eugenia Tesliuc ethnic Ukrainian and speaks perfect Russian.
However, Hamilton said Sophie , her Russian is even worse . I'm with her ​​once spoke at an auction .

Konstantin 06.05.2011 15:35

I do not know what to say ...

Well at least responded to, something already.

uriart 06.05.2011 15:41

Konstantin, I will publish online any correspondence with them.

If the answer yet.

Анна Лебедева 06.05.2011 16:00

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Lord !
Does not anyone have experience with Bonhams ?

As far as I know the reputation they have everything in order , repeatedly had with them. Refunds are not made ​​, but from experience I can say that about the conditions of return must agree in advance . Otherwise , any Russian expertise they will provide the expertise of its specialist and legally would be right .

uriart 06.05.2011 16:08

Anna Lebedeva, I did not ask about the reputation and safeguards .
And I do not have a situation with the return .
I just want to know what safeguards gives the auction house and any expert opinion of Russian institutes expertise for them to be authoritative .
Here are my questions .
Once again , I note that on Sotebis Kristiz and guarantees available to anyone who wants to hear about them .
But they have somewhat different.
A need to know in advance .

In my opinion , it would be a good auction house Bonhams , making advertising on Artinvestment , here and provide at least a link to his website which has a chapter with guarantees .

Konstantin 06.05.2011 16:12

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Сообщение от uriart (Сообщение 1625581)
and any expert opinion of Russian institutes expertise for them to be authoritative.

But this is a very sensitive issue, it did not give us an answer either Christie or Sotheby's.

Кирилл Сызранский 06.05.2011 16:26

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And I do not have a situation with the return.

But the likelihood of return you still think?

This is the same you about a possible return:


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I just want to know what safeguards gives the auction house and any expert opinion of Russian institutes expertise for them to be authoritative.


uriart 06.05.2011 16:28

Konstantin, I understand that from the mistakes no one is immune .
If they did not intentionally , of course .
If the auction house advertises itself on the site , let the answer to my questions.
It seems no compromising in them do not.

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Cyril Syzransky, But you never know what might happen ?
Others because warranty.
And considerable 5 years !

Even Shapiro guarantee - one a month .
And do not hide them from customers . And every man for himself decide.

Altim 06.05.2011 17:25

The British people are oak, brake constantly, with rare exceptions.
Especially the clerks of petty-secondary level.

Therefore, see themselves in the texts of their contracts.
Here for example:

http://www.bonhams.com/eur/Appendix2/.

A brief conclusion - Experts in disputes they choose at their discretion.

Кирилл Сызранский 06.05.2011 17:39

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British people of oak, brake constantly

Yeah, that's just the whole rock and pop music that the whole world slusheaet from these "oak" English.
:D>

Анна Лебедева 07.05.2011 11:16

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Сообщение от uriart (Сообщение 1625581)
Anna Lebedeva, I did not ask about the reputation and safeguards .
And I do not have a situation with the return .
I just want to know what safeguards gives the auction house and any expert opinion of Russian institutes expertise for them to be authoritative .
Here are my questions .
Once again , I note that on Sotebis Kristiz and guarantees available to anyone who wants to hear about them .
But they have somewhat different.
A need to know in advance .

You, dear colleague , talking about theory, but I'm on the practice . It's one thing the general rules , the other - the personal arrangement .
A reputation is directly linked to the guarantee . Any self-respecting auction need a scandal around him , if only we are not talking about big money , when it is triggered by greed.
I can assure you that no matter what safeguards were not any of your auctions are listed , if it need be, the subject will not take back . Authority will be the one who in a particular case is easy . You about this said to Altim.

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Сообщение от Altim (Сообщение 1625681)
short conclusion - Experts in disputes they choose at their discretion .


uriart 07.05.2011 12:38

Altim,
Anna Lebedeva, Have you had experience in return ?

A couple of years ago I took the return without unnecessary calls and the money returned .
Given that no one claimed any expertise .
Or my hand or on their behalf.


By asking the questions here on the website and the auction house , I would like to know the extent of their risks . And no more.


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