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Artem 14.04.2011 09:40

Success Story Yemelyan Zakharov.
 
Interesting interview about - expert Petrova.

Success Story Yemelyan Zakharov 12.04.11 09:05 Finam FM audio interview

Likhachev: Yeah. In principle, we now know, even the program to finish - all bad.

Zechariah: And I'm just being gay positive person will still try and hope that everything will be fine.

Likhachev: All taxied. Emelyan, let's talk about one is not very positive aspect of your activities - fake falshaki, and so on - are many ways to call this phenomenon, which in recent times, it seems to me, somehow, a little posdulos, may be because, in principle, sales are fewer, so ...

Zechariah: No ...

Likhachev: No?

Zechariah: It posdulos, just because of ...

Likhachev: yours, including?

Zechariah: My including, but above all Vladimir Karpovich Roshchina, a man who just took it and decided to fight the bad guys. Well, there's gallery helped him, than I could, thank God, Rosokhrankultura second hand, and began to leave catalogs fakes - came five, they come out yet.

Likhachev: That is still planned, here are these five that are, in principle, already exist.

Zakharov: I'm still looking forward to thirty volumes.

Likhachev: The entire thirty volumes?

Zechariah: Yes.

Likhachev: Wow volumes! I mean the fake pictures.

Zechariah: Thousands and thousands! And it's a great job, because it clears the market. I, for instance, stopped playing ... well, like the art of the dead to date, artists ...

Likhachev: Do you like straight Morozov.

Zechariah: No, for the simple reason that it is impossible ... you're selling the old art is always under attack, you're potentially a crook - do not just want. Well, a hundred pictures of a genuine market - well, not the same ...
Likhachev: Well, now you have released five albums - you have some noticeable results could now announce? What happened?

Zechariah: Well, as I say? In the market there are fewer fakes, people simply began ... How do you say? Buyers of paintings became much more closely related to authentication - thank God.

Likhachev: And remember, you are somehow, in some interviews, too, offered 100,000 to the expert, who admits his mistake - that's just one person applied for a while ... well, since that time how did the interview?

Zechariah: None.

Likhachev: No? So no one even once. And here were generally hot times - some experts, museums, who admitted: "Listen, guys - yes."

Zechariah: Petrov admitted mistakes.

Likhachev: And what was this story?

Zakharov: Well, it's a bunch of napodtverzhdal falshaka, then confessed, said: "Yes, it made a mistake".

Likhachev: And this was his voluntary such an action? Or was he forced to do this?

Zechariah: Yes, voluntary. I just do not quite believe it - how can a person with his name and expertise under one thousand paintings to recognize genuine. I think that scared the prosecution and decided to quickly pass a clearing.

Likhachev: I understand - of guilt, in short, to come.

Zechariah: Well-type, yes.



Read more: http://finam.fm/archive-view/3947/

redbor 14.04.2011 20:37

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Zakharov : Petrov admitted mistakes .
Likhachev : And what was this story ?
Zechariah: Well, it's a bunch of napodtverzhdal falshaka , then confessed , said: " Yes, it made ​​a mistake ".

The main thing is that no conclusion, Petrova has not been formally refuted by other experts .
Vladimir himself discovered his blunder , he corrected them .
Stories already five years old ...
 Something drives him Emelyan Zakharych , why suddenly ?

Artem 14.04.2011 21:28

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Stories already five years old

The story continues ...
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Something is driving him Emelyan Zakharych , why suddenly ?

Apparently , he has a reason for it ...

[color=#666686 " ]Posted 4 hours 37 minutes[/color]
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The main thing is that no conclusion, Petrova has not been formally refuted by other experts

 You are deeply mistaken , in the film by Boris Sobolev "Art on Tap " convicted Belelovsky said openly that he sits for two expert who gave expert Petrov . This film is on the forum . And such examples are , unfortunately , Vladimir Alexandrovich apparently not enough ...

redbor 15.04.2011 13:13

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Apparently , he has a reason for it ..

Well , yes, there is something wrong in triumph ..
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You are deeply mistaken , in the film by Boris Sobolev ... convicted Belelovsky said ...

I talked about the denial of expert opinions Petrova other recognized experts .
 Do you know about such cases ?
And the fact that the said defendant and how it interprets the word director - it's fiction ...
( more defendants said : " The devil lured , so what ?...)

Artem 15.04.2011 13:32

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I talked about the denial of expert opinions Petrova other recognized experts.

 
So this now and then, once in trouble with the expertise Petrova, he immediately announced their mistake and all.
And then he says I'm one had the courage to admit their own mistakes ...

redbor 15.04.2011 15:29

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as soon as the trouble with expertise Petrova, he immediately announced their mistake and EVERYTHING

What is the trouble?

Specifically, what some experts were drawn conclusions about what expertise Petrova wrong?

If they are, in fact, it is found ..

Artem 15.04.2011 23:52

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Specifically, what some experts have been drawn conclusions about what expertise Petrova wrong?

confess I do not want to spend more time on it, but I still think it will be interesting to once again look at the antics of Vladimir Aleksandrovich.
- one of the articles about the master, I really think it so. Ready to take my hat off to him. Not every expert will be able to honorably withdraw from the difficult situation in which it finds itself. For me, this creative man, he was constantly in the process of creative "search" ...

Examination of the garbage

Nevertheless, there are already people doing this work alone. Advertisement
"Catalogue" called him an outstanding expert. This is Vladimir Petrov. Attack on experts Tretyakov began recently, and the starting point is the story of the landscape of the Dutch artist Kukkuka apparently perelitsovannogo under Shishkin. Examination of the possible and unintended mistake dates back to October 2003. Meanwhile, in April 2003, the department examinations THG came genre paintings of Western artists Zondermana which posed for a picture of Vasily Perov. She was provided with a false signature and reworked some parts of the composition. The experts of the Tretyakov Gallery, Russian Museum and the Center Grabar declined authorship Perov. But Mr. Petrov unambiguously confirmed the authenticity of the paintings and gave the opinion that this Perov. to read the full article-1 Landscape with expertise. Original:

http://www.sovsekretno.ru/app/magazi...icles/1912.pdf

Сима 16.04.2011 09:30

In my opinion, someone is about to settle scores, take the opportunity to do so anonymously.

Artem 18.04.2011 00:51

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I think someone is about to settle scores , take the opportunity to do so anonymously

You are so vain , I was asked , quite clear :
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Specifically , what some experts have been drawn conclusions about what expertise Petrova wrong ?
If they are , in fact, it is found ..

I said to him ,
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The experts of the Tretyakov Gallery , Russian Museum and the Center Grabar rejected the authorship Perov . But Mr. Petrov unambiguously confirmed the authenticity of the paintings and gave the opinion that this Perov .

In addition, to reduce to someone scores way, is senseless and unreasonable

redbor 25.04.2011 12:06

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Message from redbor Specifically , what some experts have been drawn conclusions about what expertise Petrova wrong ?
If they are , in fact, it is found ..

I said to him,

You answered ? :) >
You just speculation priiveli Kislitskiy , which , as usual , to put it mildly , " writes " :D >
 And where the words of experts to refute the conclusion Petrova , if any?
  Said picture Zondermana placed in the " Catalogue of artefacts -1 " And that Petrov has determined that it is not Perov ...

Artem 25.04.2011 13:13

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You just priiveli Kislitskiy speculation, which, as usual, to put it mildly, "writes

Of course, cochinyayut all around, just sort of conspiracy against ekspetra Petrova ... and convicted of cheating at examination Petrova in the film "Cultural deception" Boris Sobolev (Vidio - See more here: http://expertmus.livejournal.com/63462.html) were shown expertise Petrova, and Kyslynsky too deceiving though to write this article having on hand examination Petrova in this picture.



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mentioned painting Zondermana placed in the" Catalogue of artefacts -1 "And that Petrov has determined that it is not Perov ...

 That's right, he first confirmed the authorship of Perov and then gave it to the "Catalogue of fakes" thereby whiten and cleanse themselves, as on many others ... I recommend to watch the movie will soon be shown on TV about the forgery, there are several respected collectors talk openly about the examination Petrova, etc. Already just tired of answering this question about your great expert Petrova. There is a very good saying - Oh, it is easy to deceive me, I'm happy to delude myself ........If this is true - I do not mind. Everyone believes in what he wants to believe.

redbor 25.04.2011 20:36

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Kyslynsky deceiving though to write this article having on hand examination Petrova at this picture.

Definitely cheating Kyslynsky.
No expert opinion to refute attacks Petrova in her hands she did not keep and did not see ... (You should not refer to it as she would say and write, a good example of a painting Zondermana).
 We talked about: there is the conclusion of a respected expert like: "Finally, given Petrov - wrongly?
I believe that there were none. Or has not yet found?
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That's right, he first confirmed the authorship of Perov and then gave it to the "Catalogue of fraud"
Exactly! Zondermana identified in the catalog put it, not some mythical experts, as he wants to submit Kislitskiy ...
 All their mistakes Petrov himself noticed and noted. (And many other experts to fix).
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several respected collectors talk openly about the examination Petrova, etc.

Of course many of those who does not follow suit "and with the loss of money, and goes easier for libelous article to pay than to straighten the right expertise ... (And "disinterested well-wishers," in B. Petrov missing.)

Artem 25.04.2011 23:18

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All my mistakes Petrov himself noticed and noted

This is his skill and genius, it immediately announces its their mistake and all. Then he says I'm alone had the courage to admit their own mistakes ... ,

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(and " disinterested well-wishers , " in B. Petrov enough .)

Here in this you are one hundred percent right , so many people suffered from " disinterested mistakes " of the great expert - See Here, there ishttp://video.yandex.ru/users/temnoepivo/view/1
(snippets from the movie "Bugs or scam "2009 )


 Participate in the debate , I do not make sense - wait for showing the film ... Propose that after watching the film , to discuss this topic .

Everyone believes in what he wants to believe .

Кирилл Сызранский 26.04.2011 10:02

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wait for the show the movie ...

You often write here about this film, announcing his show on TV that inadvertently created an impression: You are the author.
:)>

redbor 26.04.2011 14:26

Not mistaken , he who does nothing . Errors are allowed . And if a decent person , he finds them , recognizes and fixes .
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he right to announce his mistake , and ALL . Then he says I'm alone had the courage to admit their own mistakes ... ,

Artem, allow two questions :
1 . What other experts himself and openly admitted his false imprisonment ?
2 . Before Petrov found errors in and informed about them , someone said on these findings , they are wrong ? ( but please , the real fact . and not a fantasy L. Kyslynsky )
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wait for showing the film ... Propose that after watching the film , to discuss this topic .

Sorry about any movie about? Boris Sobolev ? It seems to have looked http://forum.artinvestment.ru/blog.php?b=70105 comedy . For example :
Belilovsky : "For $ 1000 he'll make a picture in life is not to distinguish from the originals ! " .
Straight as slanting of the " gentlemen of fortune : " .. I have a friend , also a scientist , three classes graduated , so it is 5 minutes ten draws - not unlike the present ! " .
But Belilovsky sitting in jail along the way and Petrov mud poured ... The administration requests , needs to be done ..


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