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наследник 24.03.2011 14:30

Stalin Joseph Brodsky
 
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The seller claims that the portrait is made on the metal.

Draws attention to a scratch on his right cheek, deep scratches visible metal.

Could you please advise on engineering and, if met at auctions such portraits, then by price.

Игорь Гурьев 24.03.2011 17:10

And down there is not sign some kind of printing?

Below the signature at the bottom.

наследник 24.03.2011 18:48

Igor Sasha, well, you and the goggle-eyed ! <!--~ 10 " - >
That's right, below the output of this portrait - the order number , circulation 10,000 copies .
I did not specifically pay attention to it so as not to distract from the question of technique. Otherwise, everyone would have thought as thought , and I - an ordinary poster with a portrait of the leader.
But again, - the owner claims that the portrait is made on the sheet metal . Reason not to trust him I do not . So I'm asking for consolidated in this people - whether with a sheet of print circulation ? and how much can be such a list ?

Игорь Гурьев 24.03.2011 21:09

Generally it is more like a lithographic stone and not metal.

In general, more like paper.

On lithographic stone would be a mirror image.

ksp 24.03.2011 21:17

Long ago, in Leningrad , on the same prom . enterprise, in a dusty corner of the stationery table was a portrait of one of the companions of Stalin . Portrait on meth . sheet , the memory of the same size , the signature of Joseph Brodsky . Sheet metal about 0.5 - 0.7mm , the back of the zinc . About Imprint printing can not remember , but most likely they were .

fabosch 24.03.2011 21:35

Theoretically, this could be for a flat plate-type offset printing.
Since the offset printed off directly from the forms on paper and through the rubber rollers, the image does not mirror

наследник 24.03.2011 21:44

fabosch,

ksp,


Thank you does not work.
Therefore, I write.
Put when plashechka appear.

While thinking - how much to give for this list?
Are there any considerations?

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turnover.

Similarly, the inscription in the corner of the worksheet looks like this -

Glavlit RSFSR B-35696 circulation 10 000 order number 1903 tsina 20 carb

PPCC r-d "METALLOMETR Leningrad Bypass Channel 130

наследник 24.03.2011 22:56

to clarify
 
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Similarly, the inscription in the corner of the worksheet looks like this -

Glavlit RSFSR B-35696 circulation 10 000 order number 1903 tsina 20 carb

PPCC r-d "METALLOMETR Leningrad Bypass Channel 130

fabosch 24.03.2011 23:19

Do you believe that this should be worth the money ? I understand when money is printed boards ( copper etching , for example , or wood in woodcut ) , they still bear a direct hand of the master ( the artist or engraver ) . But this form is made photomechanical process. That is the original and then photographed with a negative film light - contact method the image is transferred to this metallichpeskub plate . I would consider it more as a souvenir , something like a facsimile reproduction of the metal.

наследник 24.03.2011 23:40

fabosch, I just wanted to have at his plate , not a printed copy of it . Yes, I agree with you that the great author's values ​​, it is not . Still, some cost money . Asking price of $ 600 seemed very overpriced and , frankly , I was searching for arguments that could return the retailer to the realism . Part of you these arguments have prompted me , thanks .

Игорь Гурьев 24.03.2011 23:54

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Сообщение от "heir 1570741
Glavlit RSFSR B-35696 circulation 10 000 order number 1903 tsina 20 carb

Hence, this post-war press.

Could not have it cost 20 rubles before the war, wild money.


It's like 7 Brezhnev rubles.

Кирилл Сызранский 25.03.2011 00:02

Цитата:

Сообщение от Guriev, Igor (Сообщение 1570821)
Could it cost 20 rubles before the war, wild money.

This is not to sell.

Sold a reproduction printed on this sheet.

Added after 2 minutes
And to go was this sheet to the Ukraine, and there really would print with it.
Look at the price:

Цитата:

tsina 20 carb

наследник 25.03.2011 00:48

In 2007, the Gelos was sold to a poster with a portrait of the poet Voroshilov.
The same size, with minor rubbing at the folds.

4000 rubles.

For me it is a starting point in today's auction.

Игорь Гурьев 25.03.2011 01:37

Цитата:

Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky (Сообщение 1570851)
This is not to sell .
Sold a reproduction printed on this page .

I do something about the reproduction of the sheet and wrote .
At that price was 20 rubles - the price is not explicitly pre-war .
It is possible that after the reform of 1947 .
And expensive .=2 rannebrezhnevskim rubles .
Under Brezhnev , such plakatiki cost 20 kopecks .

Игорь Гурьев 25.03.2011 01:37

I play with myself: how much would I buy if I was right.

As the final buyer.

More than 200 euros would not give.

Well, 250.


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